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Post by MrsM on Mar 10, 2014 12:30:03 GMT -5
Nicole wants to make love. Eric calls a halt. He tells her they need to talk. They leave the hotel room and go to the pub where he declares that he wants her but that he wants to do things right and talks about marriage. He wants to be married before they make love. Nicole doesn't understand and Eric really wants her to.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 10, 2014 13:05:39 GMT -5
I saw the title of this thread and thought "Yeah, he does."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 14:46:24 GMT -5
For the love of God, is this for real? Just when I thought the writers couldn't derail this pairing any more than they already have.
So now, Nicole is not only going to be exposed as a liar, but as a desperate sex-starved loon as well?
I could understand if Eric said he wanted to wait a little longer, but until they are married?
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 10, 2014 15:35:33 GMT -5
For the love of God, is this for real? Just when I thought the writers couldn't derail this pairing any more than they already have. So now, Nicole is not only going to be exposed as a liar, but as a desperate sex-starved loon as well? I could understand if Eric said he wanted to wait a little longer, but until they are married? Granted, I didn't see the scene play out, but I'd say wanting to have sex with the man you've been in love with for nearly a year hardly makes her a desperate, sex starved loon. And with Eric JUST leaving the priesthood, I'd say it would be more unrealistic if he were to jump in the sack the first chance he got. I'm positive he would have counseled others to wait until marriage to have sex. And he wasn't a priest for this long without believing the things he was saying. And if this was the other way around, would anyone really have a problem with it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 16:05:23 GMT -5
DancingDays, I should have explained my comment better(sorry) I said that about Nicole because she was quite clearly unhappy about Eric's wish to wait until marriage. After Eric left the pub, Nicole had one of her talks with the man upstairs and said "He" was probably laughing his beard off, but that he had messed with the wrong woman. Later, back at the hotel, Nicole has laid out several pieces of lingerie on the bed and then holds one up, looks in the mirror and says that it should help Eric see the light. She clearly has no regard for what Eric just said and is willing to step up her game in order to get into bed with him. I don't like it. It makes her appear selfish. As far as Eric goes, it is understandable that he wouldn't want to jump into anything serious right away, but I feel that the writers are really milking this priest stuff for all it is worth.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 10, 2014 18:57:20 GMT -5
Seems Nicole and Eric have their first serious moral difference of opinion. I didn't like her plot (and yes it seemed like a plot) to seduce Eric, when he made himself crystal clear about his beliefs. He was taken against his will once. Nicole needs to chill.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 10, 2014 19:27:54 GMT -5
dukeblue, Thanks for clarifying. I still think, however, that Ericole's relationship is a gender-swap of a regular everyday couple. Usually, it's the guy that's trying so hard and the girl is the one saying "No, let's wait." Granted, usually, one of them isn't a priest, but anywho. Think about how many times boys are told "If she says no, you just need to try harder." That's why I can't blame Nicole. To paraphrase a dashing pirate I know (attn: MrsM) "Those not willing to fight for what they want, deserve what they get."
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Post by MrsM on Mar 10, 2014 19:44:02 GMT -5
For you DancingDaysI understand Eric's convictions and I don't fault him for wanting to wait. I also don't fault Nicole for wanting the physical part of the relationship. But they both need to work through this together. Nicole needs to not rely on seduction with Eric. I think that is the wrong way to go about it with him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 20:16:12 GMT -5
Very valid point DancingDays! Eric has a lot of self-control and Nicole could probably learn a lot from him in that department. Thinking back, did anyone notice that when Nicole was having fantasies about Eric, they were of the steamy, desk clearing sort and when Eric had his little fantasy of Nicole, it was of the cutesy, nose-rubbing, sharing a meal sort? I guess that pretty much says it all!
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Post by wendylou on Mar 10, 2014 20:20:01 GMT -5
I don't blame either of them for feeling the way they do either but when you combine what Nicole did with the evidence from Dr. Chyka and with her trying to seduce Eric after he says he wants to wait until they are married to have sex, it kind of seems like she has very little regard for his feelings. Not good.
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 10, 2014 21:28:50 GMT -5
I don't blame either of them for feeling the way they do either but when you combine what Nicole did with the evidence from Dr. Chyka and with her trying to seduce Eric after he says he wants to wait until they are married to have sex, it kind of seems like she has very little regard for his feelings. Not good. I agree wendylou. I was disgusted by Nicole today. She showed no regard for Eric's feelings and beliefs. I feel like she just wants to get him in the sack before he somehow finds out about the evidence or changes his mind about leaving the priesthood. She acts like sex is the only way to show you love someone.
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Post by wendylou on Mar 10, 2014 21:45:31 GMT -5
I don't blame either of them for feeling the way they do either but when you combine what Nicole did with the evidence from Dr. Chyka and with her trying to seduce Eric after he says he wants to wait until they are married to have sex, it kind of seems like she has very little regard for his feelings. Not good. I agree wendylou. I was disgusted by Nicole today. She showed no regard for Eric's feelings and beliefs. I feel like she just wants to get him in the sack before he somehow finds out about the evidence or changes his mind about leaving the priesthood. She acts like sex is the only way to show you love someone. Maybe that's all she knows fluffysmom. I am SO disappointed in what the writers are doing to this story. It started out with such great romantic potential and now they are having Nicole do all these things that make me think she and Eric really are not meant to be together. Maybe Brady, as bitter as he is, was right.
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Post by Pallison on Mar 10, 2014 23:12:32 GMT -5
Today pretty much put a halt to the romance of Nicole and Eric with Nicole's behavior.....I agree with @dukeblue and fluffysmom , it's a shame Nicole is behaving the way she is....what happened to the woman who just a few short months ago wanted what was best for Eric, regardless of what it was, and loved him enough to make sacrifices for him....? Now she doesn't respect him, his beliefs or his feelings.....
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 11, 2014 6:32:28 GMT -5
She should be over the moon that he is talking about their future in terms of marriage.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 11, 2014 8:45:58 GMT -5
I would rather see Nicole struggling with her own issues -- like destroying the evidence, and how she has to repress her sexual desires out of respect for Eric, maybe be tempted by the fruit of another. Right now, she seems more like a caricature than a fully drawn character.
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