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Post by Kpatch on Jul 18, 2011 19:41:54 GMT -5
You all know I'm not a big Dan fan, but today he seemed like he became a real man. Thinking back on how aggressive he has been with other women in the past, this was a totally different Dan today. He told Jennifer he would wait for her. He was calm and dispassionate. This was a whole different side of him.
What did you all think? Did you like how he spoke to Jennifer today?
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Post by MrsM on Jul 18, 2011 19:44:04 GMT -5
I thought it was very grown up. He showed her he cared but did it in a very restrained manner. He put the ball in her court.
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Post by extrememakeover on Jul 18, 2011 20:00:35 GMT -5
s was a totally different Dan today. He told Jennifer he would wait for her. He was calm and dispassionate. y That's the word.He's dispassionate with everyone but Chloe.And no.It's not a growing up sign for me.He's not harrassing jennifer like he harrassed Chloe but is still acting like he's God's gift to women and that he is the best thing that ever happened to jennifer,Carly and Chloe .He totally failed Chloe yet has the nerve to call Jack a moron because he wasn't there for Jennfier.He blames Chloe for falling in Vivian's set up yet her was "jealous" of Jennifer talking to a old HS pal,took Caroline's woprd about the paternity test and Carly;'s word about Melanie being his daughter.He has no proof of either and he turned his back of Chloe and Parker without even taking 5 minutes to sit and talk to lChloe, listen to what she had to say. Daniel Jonas wil grow up the day he will take his share of responsibility in the Dankloe's destruction,the day he will stop being a heartless,hypocriotical sob, and the day he will become a man of his word. So far he's not.Daniel will never be as passionate with anyone as he was with Chloe.Never. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:01:30 GMT -5
I have to agree with MrsM.He wasn't pushy,didn't try to bulldoze his way through any defenses she had up,he backed off and let her have her space.Sometimes that could be seen as uninterested,but I really didn't take it that way.I don't think he's given up on her (although I really wish he would),but he's not going to railroad her into anything either.He's taken his responsibility in the mistakes he's made,which is good.It doesn't erase the mistakes,but at least he's no longer blaming everyone else only which is nice.
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Post by Kpatch on Jul 18, 2011 20:04:13 GMT -5
@ Extrememakeover. I'm glad I chose the right word!  @ Delina, I wonder how many times Daniel is going to tell Jennifer that he's not going to push her. LOL. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:06:35 GMT -5
Kpatch Probably until Jack makes his return to Salem and he sees the effect Jack has on Jenn.She can never stay away from Jack no matter how angry she may be.They've always loved eachother and my guess is they always will,it's just something Daniel's going to have to accept.He's lost before he even knows there's a fight.
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Post by Trey on Jul 18, 2011 20:06:59 GMT -5
I think that Daniel has grown up in his relationship with Jennifer. Of course it helps that he's with a real woman and not an impressionable young girl.
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Post by extrememakeover on Jul 18, 2011 20:14:39 GMT -5
I have to agree with MrsM.He wasn't pushy,didn't try to bulldoze his way through any defenses she had up,he backed off and let her have her space.Sometimes that could be seen as uninterested,but I really didn't take it that way.I don't think he's given up on her (although I really wish he would),but he's not going to railroad her into anything either.He's taken his responsibility in the mistakes he's made,which is good.It doesn't erase the mistakes,but at least he's no longer blaming everyone else only which is nice. I'm sorry but I haven't seen him take any responsibility for the destruction of Danloe.He only took responsibility for th destruction of Luloe.That's it.But when it comes to Danloe,he acts like he's a poor blameless innocent victim. He's not. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:18:26 GMT -5
There are several scenes in which he's taken responsibility.I'd be happy to find them for you if you'd like. |
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Post by Trey on Jul 18, 2011 20:25:17 GMT -5
I also agree that he has said that admitted his mistakes and for his role in the break up with Chloe.
Not that I think it was portrayed well. I'd have liked a little more "oh dang, what have I done? Why didn't I listen to her?" but, it was played out in conversations he had.
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:27:20 GMT -5
Yes it has.I agree that it was kinda glossed over though.He admitted it to Vic I think,who in all likely hood didn't accept it.He also said it more than once to Jenn who of course wouldn't accept that,lol,but that's just her,it's who she is.I can't remember who else he admitted it to,I'd have to look around.I'm sure he did with Mel too.
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Post by sportsgirl on Jul 18, 2011 20:29:56 GMT -5
There are several scenes in which he's taken responsibility.I'd be happy to find them for you if you'd like. So true!! I had this discussion with extreme previously. You may need to provide proof. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:38:35 GMT -5
Hunting around as we speak.I know it's out there,lol.
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Post by extrememakeover on Jul 18, 2011 20:41:28 GMT -5
There are several scenes in which he's taken responsibility.I'd be happy to find them for you if you'd like. you don't have to.You're talking about the couple of times he said he failed Chloe and could have avoided all that if he had been there for her( On october 7th and march 17th)?I have them, alright.But these are just words since his actions proved other wise. He chose to go along with Jennifer striking his ego when she said it was all Chloe's fault,he is balmeless,...blablablabla...he replied to that by thanking Jennifer for " telling things the way they are" .meaning he agrees he is balmeless..that's not taking responsibility......He agrees with everyone who says Chloe destroeyd his life,whe we all know different.He refuses that Melanie takes her share of responsibility as wel.lWhen she told him "I ruined my own life".His reply was" Others did it for you"...No...Daniel didn't take any responsibility for what happened with Danloe.The only thing he did is to say that he was wrong to go after Chloe when she was with lucas.That's it. March 17soaps.sheknows.com/daysofourlives/update/id/12113/Dont_Try_Win/"Daniel shows up on Jenn's doorstep saying he got her divorce papers by accident. Justin's his divorce lawyer, too. Jenn hands over the envelope she received and he confirms they're his. They promise to keep things quiet. Daniel opens up about how he feels somewhat responsible. He was oblivious. Jenn stands up for him when he beats himself up. Daniel's thankful for her friendship and likes how direct she is. Jenn's cookies are ready so she runs off while Dan removes his wedding band." Ocotber 7soaps.sheknows.com/daysofourlives/update/id/10561/Worse_Than_An_Edgar_Allan_Poe_Story/Daniel arrives at Maggie’s place to see Melanie but she’s out. Maggie takes off to pick up shoes for the wedding and Philip arrives and Daniel tells Philip how grateful he is to Philip for getting Chloe through her many issues. They discuss Daniel’s impending fatherhood and he shares his excitement. Now watch again these two episodes.These are the only times Daniel admitted he failed Chloe and wasn't there for her when she needed him the most and could have avoided all that if he had been there for her. the only times.But si actions spoke louder than his words,and showed clearly that he took no responsibilty whatsoever. For me he would have taken his share of responsiibility if he had sit down and listen to Chloe,tried to work things out with her.But he didn't even try,he dumped her and Parker in a heartbeat and within a week he was already into Jennifer.That's not taking responsibility . |
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Post by jaysdelina on Jul 18, 2011 20:51:04 GMT -5
Everyone here watches this show,yet takes something different away from each scene and that's fine.Daniel and Carly DID ruin Mel's life in the sense that one never knew she existed and the other gave her up,not realizing she was going to be adopted by a monster.That's how I took Daniel's comment to Mel.
As for the rest,what man ISN'T going to agree with a woman stroking his ego?Jennifer has blinders on,especially when she gets something in her head.She's PO'd at Jack right now and is trying to convince herself she's doing the right thing with Daniel.We both know how that's going to turn out I'm sure.We're talking about the girl who didn't want him until her best friend didn't want him,then she went for it.So I don't take much stalk in what Jenn has to say about Daniel's mistakes.Jenn has made plenty herself.
Lastly,you said actions speak louder than words.I agree with that most of the time.However,a person can't pay penance for the rest of their life for their mistakes.There comes a time when you have to forgive not only the person/people who hurt you,but you have to forgive yourself as well.Otherewise how are you expected to move on with your life?I've said and done plenty of really stupid things in my life,does that mean I don't deserve forgiveness?If I admit to my mistakes and pay for them,should people keep throwing them up in my face just because they can?Just a thought...
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