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Post by kathyj on Mar 13, 2014 13:23:03 GMT -5
EJ is at the hospital talking to Abigail about the doctor he wants to do the pregnancy test. Abby is adamant that she does not want to see a doctor on the Dimera payroll. She will do things her way and make her own decisions. EJ asks her if she got pregnant on purpose -- did she know the time is right when she joined him in the shower? She tells him that she did not do this on purpose -- she will do this on her own. She is giving him a pass. EJ tells her that he will support her decisions and he will not deny the child.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 13, 2014 16:33:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why Abigail would think EJ would do something to hurt her "baby". Doesn't she know that family means everything to someone like him? How dumb can she be? OK clearly she's an idiot...but really? This is like a level lower than idiot. She is totally ruining this whole thing for me...I keep wishing she was smarter, stronger, less annoying...LOL
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Post by wendylou on Mar 13, 2014 16:47:21 GMT -5
This is the first time with these two that I actually...sympathized (?) with Abby. Although I was still annoyed that she wasn't more forceful with EJ. There is no way in the world I would let him waltz in there and tell me where, when and with whom I'd be getting the pregnancy test done. Surely at this point she has her own doctor and that's who she should see and make it known to EJ that is how things will be. EJ seems to think that even the possibility of Abby having his child now makes her his possession to do with as he sees fit.
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Post by kathyj on Mar 13, 2014 17:22:58 GMT -5
Abigail just had that very realistic dream about EJ having her pregnancy terminated. That could still be on her mind and making her a leery of EJ's motives.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 13, 2014 18:36:24 GMT -5
I'm sure the nightmare is ruling her thoughts. EJ looked shocked when Abby insisted that she's doing things her way. Then of course he pulled out the "I still care about you" card.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 19:37:40 GMT -5
Abigail is far from stupid. She realizes the situation that she is in. EJ is a Dimera and while he may not harm his child, his main priority is still Sami. He will not allow Abigail's potential pregnancy to interfere with his future. To even suggest that she was trying to get pregnant shows that he isn't as caring or concerned as he would like Abigail to believe. I think she has every right to remain guarded.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 13, 2014 19:38:13 GMT -5
I didn't find that dream realistic at all...it was just her Horton fear/bias against the Dimeras kicking in. EJ values his kids...he would never force her to terminate. Having heirs means everything to men like EJ. She knows even less about the man she slept with than I thought.
I personally like the character of EJ (just not James Scott) and I "get" him and I think perceptions rule how people judge/handle him on and off the show. EJ has proved himself very typical male though in this storyline by letting his head in his pants rule him...he should have known better than to get involved with such a naive young woman. Or maybe that was the appeal...he thought she was someone easy to control and manipulate.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 13, 2014 19:43:11 GMT -5
Abigail is far from stupid. She realizes the situation that she is in. EJ is a Dimera and while he may not harm his child, his main priority is still Sami. He will not allow Abigail's potential pregnancy to interfere with his future. To even suggest that she was trying to get pregnant shows that he isn't as caring or concerned as he would like Abigail to believe. I think she has every right to remain guarded. The girl threatened to tell Sami...of course it would cross EJ's mind that Abigail could be trying to trap him. This is not big bad Dimera stuff, this cheating male stuff...right now numerous adulterous men are having the same conversation with their lovers across the globe. Of course, Sami is his priority he wants to keep her, but I think if it came down to it, he would choose his children over Sami too. I don't think EJ would EVER hurt his child. His children mean everything to him, and no matter what else he's done, he's always been a good father to them. Abigail was being stupid in that line of thinking. She should have just said I would feel more comfortable choosing my doctor, feel free to accompany me...like a mature woman would have.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 13, 2014 19:51:58 GMT -5
I thought EJ was out of line suggesting Abby tried to get pregnant. What woman would want a Dimera baby. It's just buying a lifetime of trouble. But I agree Abigail is not mature. She's a young woman getting a thrill out of exploring her sexual side, and now she's getting dose of reality. Even if EJ wouldn't hurt his child physically, he would keep it from its mother without a second thought. That nightmare was borne out of all kind of fears that Abby is experiencing. I loved the dream sequence.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 13, 2014 20:02:17 GMT -5
Ever watch Maury Kpatch? Men are on that show almost weekly now denying their children...demanding paternity tests...accusing women of trapping them. Out of line maybe...but that's real...many men think that way about inconvenient offspring. And actually EJ would welcome his kid with open arms - so he's better than those Maury guys. Abigail's dream and actions afterward prove she would try to keep EJ from his kid without a second thought. So who is worse here? She's a judgmental hypocrite if she holds EJ's family and business against him. She slept with the man. If he was good enough for sex, then he's good enough to father her child. I would much rather have a Dimera baby than a crazy Horton one. I see nothing wrong with how EJ is raising his two children. So to me all I see is prejudice against the Dimeras...Abigail has been saying over and over since this mess started that she can't believe she is sleeping with a Dimera...as if he were a demon and not a man. He has never harmed her, so her fears are coming from reputation, rumors, and bias.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 20:23:42 GMT -5
slyn11, I don't put too much weight on Abigail's "threat" to tell Sami due to the context in which it was mentioned. EJ is a grown man and absolutely more experienced than Abigail. If he was concerned about the possibility of a pregnancy, he also had the choice to protect himself or abstain altogether, so for him to even bring up the shower episode was completely uncalled for. He must bear equal responsibility. Abigail is young and very inexperienced. She may be emotional and irrational right now, but I don't think she is being stupid by any means. I believe Sami kept her baby from EJ and she knew him a lot better at that time than Abigail does now.
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 13, 2014 21:03:58 GMT -5
I think Abby fears what EJ will do to protect his relationship with Sami.
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Post by lyns on Mar 13, 2014 23:31:51 GMT -5
I agree, mostly, with slyn11. Abigail brought that accusation on herself by her threats to tell Sami, her aggressiveness about wanting EJ, and her ridiculous need to make more out of what happened between them than there was. Think about, here is a girl who has been the instigator in all your encounters, who has told you numerous times how she wishes you had chosen her over Sami, and is now acting completely irrational like she's attempting so "hard to get" game. Given EJ's track record with women, it's pretty understandable that he would wonder if she gotten pregnant on purpose. Heck I've known girls who have poked holes in condoms and stopped birth control in an attempt to trap a guy. Women do some crazy stuff sometimes! That being said, if Abby's going to be a grown woman who is sexually active then it's up to her to have an ob/gyn that she could go to. It's not like the doctor could tell anyone and it should appear as a regular appt. It's about time Abby started acting like an adult!
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 14, 2014 9:29:28 GMT -5
She can go to a primary care doctor. That wouldn't raise any suspicion. I never had an OB/GYN until I was pregnant. I just had my yearly check up at my primary doctor.
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Post by lyns on Mar 14, 2014 13:54:57 GMT -5
Really? My mom took me to one for yearly exams starting when I was 13.
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