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Post by Trey on May 3, 2011 12:10:16 GMT -5
Exactly, that's the only thing that's correct about Sami. You can talk til you're blue in the face, but she's only going to do what she wants to do.
Off topic: And, it just dawned on me that my husband is like Sami Brady. Danggit.
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Post by DancingDays on May 3, 2011 12:18:30 GMT -5
Exactly, that's the only thing that's correct about Sami. You can talk til you're blue in the face, but she's only going to do what she wants to do. Off topic: And, it just dawned on me that my husband is like Sami Brady. Danggit. Bwahahaha! ;D |
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Post by MrsM on May 3, 2011 14:44:21 GMT -5
I feel your pain Trey except it isn't my husband, it is his sister. Oy vey.
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Post by mae00 on May 3, 2011 15:00:11 GMT -5
I know EXACTLY what you mean Trey! My husband's the same way  |
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Post by Tom Horton on May 3, 2011 15:50:49 GMT -5
I didn't see the end of Lumi/beginning of Ejami, but didn't Sami get with EJ of her own free will before it went downhill? From what I gathered from youtube, I thought she stepped out on Lucas to be with EJ. She even kept them both on the hook for a little while. Then EJ crossed that line. Did I understand that all wrong? It went down almost the exact opposite of that. In fact, I would say that Ejami never started. This is what happened. Lumi broke up because of the whole stangate business just as Austin conveniently returned to town. Austin wanted to get back together with Carrie and Sami wanted to get back with Lucas but both counterparts were angry at them. Sami and Austin started a business together and Lucas and Carrie were working on a business deal together with Titan. Sami and Austin were engaged when EJ first arrived in town but she and Lucas were both being written as pining for each other (but with Lucas being convinced it would never work out between them). EJ targeted Sami from the beginning and while she was being honest and open with him and thinking he was a friend, EJ was secretly working as the black glove, trying to alienate her from everyone else. It quickly fell apart for Lucas/Carrie and Sami/Austin when Lucas caught Austin and Carrie cheating on him. He and Sami fought some for a couple of weeks and then were working toward a reunion. In the meantime, she had exactly one date with EJ and the next morning told him she didn't want to see him again because she had never stopped loving Lucas and wanted to work things out with him. That is when EJ started showing his true colors more and more. He attempted to physically attack (forcibly rape) Sami in her apartment but Lucas arrived before he could finish. About a month later came the Dec. 29, 2006 episode that shall forever live in infamy. From that point on EJ was constantly harassing Sami, threatening her, physically manhandling her, etc. while she was pregnant with the twins and engaged to Lucas. After she and Lucas were married she finally told him what EJ had done to her and that took away some of EJ's power over her and that is when he shifted gears again and upped the physical attacks. He chloroformed Sami and kidnapped her so that the twins could be cut out of her (killed) to "save" Stefano. He tried to kill Lucas. He threatened to kill Will. He attempted to kill both Roman and John and kept telling Sami that if she didn't marry him her whole family would be killed off. Sami was stupid enough (or arrogant enough) to think she could deal with the devil and finally gave in to the threats and after many refusals Lucas finally agreed to sign divorce papers. The "arrangement" they had was that she would be EJ's wife in name only and continue spending nights with Lucas and the twins in Lucas' apartment (across the hall from EJ's). So she did "cheat" on EJ with Lucas but considering the conditions of that so called marriage, I hardly think it counts as "cheating". |
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Post by DancingDays on May 3, 2011 17:14:15 GMT -5
Ahh. See, that's quite a bit different than I thought it went. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by Trey on May 3, 2011 17:41:06 GMT -5
There was a point after she and Lucas divorced and went to jail that Sami started to rely on EJ quite a bit (after the rape). She had a one night fling where Lucas caught her, and she admitted she wanted to be with Lucas, but wanted to be with EJ, too. She did string them both along until Lucas finally found Chloe, and she and Lucas were busted down to friends.
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Post by DancingDays on May 3, 2011 17:57:13 GMT -5
See, I thought there was a bit of that in there too. Clearly, their relationship is complicated and entirely too dysfunctional.
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Post by Trey on May 3, 2011 18:03:45 GMT -5
You can say that again.  |
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Post by Tom Horton on May 3, 2011 18:06:56 GMT -5
After Lucas went to prison Sami completely lost her mind and has never truly recovered from it ... and I won't even start on how low and repulsive I find the TPTB responsible for that non-apology scene and Sami (or any one for that matter) willingly sleeping with her rapist even it was only one night and she couldn't jump out of bed fast enough as soon as she realized Lucas was released from prison and back with her. That was Sami's real undoing as a character but all of the stuff since sure hasn't helped any... including Marlena leaving Salem and TPTB thinking they could just slide Sami into the role. I didn't like the original Marlena why on earth would I want to see my once favorite character turned into a very poor version of her.
ETA: I think "dysfunctional" is putting the events between Sami and EJ mildly, but I don't see it as complicated. EJ is the serial criminal and Sami has been his favorite target; criminal/victim sums up their whole "relationship" for me.
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Post by fluffysmom on May 3, 2011 19:19:23 GMT -5
How dysfunctional are her kids going to be when they are older?! Will is shockingly normal for the crap he has dealt with his entire life.
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Post by fluffysmom on May 3, 2011 19:21:47 GMT -5
I have a close family member who was cheated on and Sami's reaction is definitely not normal. Obviously no one, I hope, has a real life like Sami's though.
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Post by Trey on May 4, 2011 10:35:37 GMT -5
Will was raised by Austin and Lucas...hence a little more normal than Sami. |
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