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Post by Kpatch on Apr 25, 2011 19:10:24 GMT -5
What was your take on the conversation Melanie had with Brady about Philip? Did she really mean she didn't love Philip, or was she trying to make herself feel better by convincing herself there wasn't that much to the relationship? She was talking in circles and I had a hard time trying to interpret what she meant.
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Post by MrsM on Apr 25, 2011 20:09:10 GMT -5
She confused me and kind of ticked me off. I was trying to figure out if the writers really want us to believe that she married Phillip only for the money and to try to make it seem like she was using him to try to negate their whole relationship. I didn't like it one bit. Once they got into a relationship I did like them together and I don't want to seem them try to cheapen it and ruin it.
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Post by Kpatch on Apr 25, 2011 20:17:34 GMT -5
I am of the exact same opinion, Mrs. M. I didn't think they were right for each other at first, but they sold me. They were adorable together and had definite chemistry and Philip did too laugh at Melanie's jokes. They were quite endearing and charming. So if they are trying to rewrite history  yet again, I did not appreciate it. |
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Post by slyn11 on Apr 25, 2011 20:49:14 GMT -5
LOL yeah...I don't get why Days decided to do their patented revisionist history AFTER Philip has left. What is the point?  I think two things happened in today's Melanie's scenes 1 - They erased Nate from her history. Now I am someone who never believed Nate was the threat to Philip/Melanie that some did. The character was just a physical representative of the inner demons that worked to sabotage the couple (he was the type of man that Philip was always passed over for and he was the type of man that a good girl/woman of substance should want) So when they had Melanie reflecting on her marriage today they purposely made no mention of Nathan. That I am fine with. 2 - The second thing that happened is that writers changed Phelanie's history to explain what went wrong. Now Days is known for not valuing continuity for the sake of moving characters on to new stories. But to do this to a couple that already has a valid reason for breaking up and part of the duo off canvas..it makes no sense. I understand that the entire nature of the Phelanie story makes them have an expiration date. I mean two people brought together because they were CONNECTED and UNDERSTOOD each other and SAW LIFE THE SAME WAY has very little to work with as far as angst potential in the long run. When couples are that CONNECTED and that willing to forgive each other anything they either have to 1 - leave the show or 2 - break up by hurting/killing a family member (which is Phelanie). There is just not much left do. Couples are written to get to that point since that CONNECTION, since that is the emotional endgame so to speak for romances. So by saying that Phelanie didn't have that connection, the one thing the show beat over our heads that they did have, actually created a new angst for them instead of giving them closure. And that is pointless, because Philip is gone. Now with today's episode Phelanie has been shifted into a couple that don't share a common world view...classic soap couple angst...like Maggie/Victor, Philip/Stephanie, Sami/EJ etc I know Melanie did love Philip...and Brady calling her on that and her subsequent tears were evidence of that. She also was upset Philip left town. Like she said now she really is forced to move on. I think a part of her was holding out hope that somethign would give and just maybe...they would find a way. And I think that feeling made her really wonder about herself and her choices because why would she have this small part of her that still cared when everything went wrong? I think she was just wondering why she married a man she was unsure about and why they didn't have what it took to last forever. I liked that the show let her reflect on the relationship - I just hate how they totally ignored all they had written and made up some BS to explain their break up. |
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Post by Kpatch on Apr 25, 2011 21:26:44 GMT -5
She also was upset Philip left town. Like she said now she really is forced to move on. I think a part of her was holding out hope that somethign would give and just maybe...they would find a way. I caught that too, slyn, when she told Brady at the hospital that if Philip left town, she really does have to move on. It made me think that Melanie thought someday they might be back together, just not that soon. So now Melanie says she only married Philip for his money (can't believe she didn't mention the dimples), and then Victor says the exact opposite to Brady when he says that Melanie wasn't interested in Philip's money. So now she's got the money and no Philip. My assessment is that they wanted to erase Philip from Melanie's heart so she can be free to receive Dario's love  and to tell him that she never loved anyone else the way she loves him.  |
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Post by tabbycat46 on Apr 25, 2011 21:51:15 GMT -5
jkjpatch, I don't know what is going on either. One thing that is telling though is that during that conversation with Brady, Nathan's name never came up which was strange. After all he was the MAIN reason for all her confusion, remember. Somehow I don't think that Melanie and Brady are all of a sudden having "senior" moments and just forgot him. either Just kidding of course. Another thing that struck me as strange is her conversation with Chloe. Just my opinion, but I think that if Melanie was truly over what happened the past year, she wouldn't be lashing out at Chloe the way she did. I seem to remember that Chloe and Melanie made amends after her miscarriage. I'm simply not buying that Melanie would all of a sudden just stop loving both Nathan and Philip.
You could however, be right about everything being erased so that Dario can be only man in her heart which is not only sad but unnecessary. I guess that would be par for the course though since the Hernandez family seems to be the end all be all. I wouldn't be at all surprised that they aren't simply erasing both Nathan and Philip from her life.
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Post by slyn11 on Apr 25, 2011 23:41:59 GMT -5
My assessment is that they wanted to erase Philip from Melanie's heart so she can be free to receive Dario's love and to tell him that she never loved anyone else the way she loves him. Yep I agree...they wanted her to have a clear heart to move on. I noticed on Days it is the men who tend to have that one true love (the one they can never quite shake)....I guess so they won't be construed as DOGS. And the women are the ones that get to wipe their hearts clean with each new man. |
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Post by tabbycat46 on Apr 26, 2011 7:18:35 GMT -5
slyn, I know that is simply wrong for Days to do that. Melanie has loved two men: Nathan and Philip. I for one don't see any need to change that. I'm sure there is room in Mel's heart for Dario.
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Post by Sparkster on Apr 26, 2011 8:52:18 GMT -5
I agree with many of the posts here. I was really scratching my head during Melanie's conversation with Brady. It made absolutely no sense. The way Melanie was talking about her relationship with Philip and saying it was all for the money and she didn't really love him and he didn't get her or laugh at her jokes to me just cheapens the last year and a half and is a total slap in the face to the Phelanie fans out there. I, like some of you, was not the biggest fan of this pairing right off the bat, but I grew to like them together and really saw and felt their love blossom onscreen. I just think this was a convenient way for the writers to close the book on this and since Philip is no longer in the picture who cares. |
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Post by slyn11 on Apr 26, 2011 11:57:11 GMT -5
I just think this was a convenient way for the writers to close the book on this and since Philip is no longer in the picture who cares. I wonder if they are plotting a Philip recast. There is this huge hole in the story with Philip taking Parker. Maybe that is why they wanted to "cheapen" Phelanie so they can write both characters their new stories without having to deal with residual feelings. Hacks tend to not like to get too deep. |
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Post by mae00 on Apr 26, 2011 12:51:18 GMT -5
Melanie's rambling was a bit everywhere and did get confusing, but here was what I got out of it.
Melanie is deeply saddened by the fact that Phillip "ran off". I agree that I think she was holding out hope that they would find their way back to one another and that he would at least put up more of a fight to keep her. She is back to staying in the house where her & Phillip made so many memories and she's having a hard time coming to grips with that reality. I think that she's grasping at straws and exaggerating some small occurances in trying to find reasons that they are not meant to be together and trying to convince herself that he was just another bad decision. She's trying to numb the pain that she is feeling right now but she also knows that her and Brady have crossed a line that she wasn't ready for. I believe that she's also trying to point out her flaws to him and make him see her in a bad light in hopes that it takes them back to the friendship thy had before "the kiss".
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Post by Kpatch on Apr 26, 2011 13:00:11 GMT -5
Ooh, great assessment mae00. Makes perfect sense. Thank you!
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Post by mae00 on Apr 26, 2011 13:18:35 GMT -5
Whew!! I'm glad that made sense! I had to redo it a couple of times to be sure that I hadn't skipped around to much. My brain is just barely with it today  |
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Post by tabbycat46 on Apr 26, 2011 13:25:37 GMT -5
Ooh, great assessment mae00. Makes perfect sense. Thank you! jkjpatch, I need some information, do you know if Dena Higley is completely in charge of the headwriter duties. If she is, I believe that she is just sweeping what has happened over the past 2 years under the rug. Like Erika Slezak ( Viki, One Life to Live) said she only writes stories that she finds interesting and she does ignore show's history. That could possibly be an explanation for what is going on now. Just a thought. |
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Post by MrsM on Apr 26, 2011 13:30:22 GMT -5
Melanie needs to have a muzzle put on. Not only is she talking crazy about her marriage to Phillip, now she is going after Maggie. Grrrr....
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yet again, I did not appreciate it. 
and to tell him that she never loved anyone else the way she loves him. 
