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Post by Kpatch on Apr 23, 2011 21:49:00 GMT -5
Pretend for a moment you are Kate or Victor. Really put yourself in their shoes. If you were them, would you hate Chloe as much as they do? Chloe has actually done all the things they accuse her of. They weren't done maliciously, but the outcome was the same. You might not actually try to kill her, but you might wish you could.
So what do you think? Are Victor and Kate's feelings toward Chloe extreme or understandable?
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Post by susala on Apr 23, 2011 22:51:00 GMT -5
Victor is being malicious and lacks any understanding. His desire to see Chloe suffer demeans his character. Kate is just plain vicious and cruel. Whatever they perceive as Chloe's harm to their children, they have no call to try to harm her in any way they can. They both need to get a life.
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Post by DancingDays on Apr 24, 2011 9:15:57 GMT -5
Even though Chloe never did anything maliciously, she did screw over most of the men in that family, so it makes sense that they don't like her. Kate and Victor definately go overboard, but that's what a soap is all about.
On a side note, are there any men in that family still in town for Chlloe to affect in any way? If not, Kate and Vic need to let it go.
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Post by sportsgirl on Apr 24, 2011 9:53:36 GMT -5
They are extreme characters so extreme ideas will come of it, but they also need to let their adult children be adults and learn from their mistakes. In the end, Chloe is Parker's mother so they should at the very least respect that for Parker's sake. They don't have to love or even like Chloe, they just need to be able to put up with her when they have to.
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Post by extrememakeover on Apr 24, 2011 11:28:30 GMT -5
There is something I don't get:Chloe did hurt them but They all hurt her first:Brady,Philip and Daniel.The only one who didn't desirve what she did to him was lucas.
Chloe gets to be treated like the worste ever,desirves to die for her mistakes but it's OK for Philip to treat her like crap,humiliate her and insult her in public,use her for sex as friends with benefits?
It's ok for Brady to turn to drugs instead of turning to Chloe and working things out,leaving her without a word and letting her being framed for his so called murder?
It''s ok for Kate to try to kill her?
It's ok for Lucas to use her as rebound because he saw Sami in bed with EJ?
it's ok for Daniel to toss her aside,shut her down,treat her like she was the last of his concerns and to put Carly and Melanie before his sick fiance who was going through hell after the hysterical pregnancy?
But Chloe desirves all the bullying or even to die because she once,as a teenager,did something stupid like claiming Philip raped her but immediatly cleared his name?For cheating on Lucas and having a drunken ons?
It's ok that Chloe gets to be treated like the worste and the men in her life like victims when they all went after her to get into her pants?They all claimed they loved her but all they wanted is to get in her bed?
Out of bed,they failed her big time?Yes Chloe is flawed,has her issues,weaknesses,but men in her life were no victims whatsoever.All those who are pointing their fingers at her and judging her have done far worse than she ever has done and will ever do.They should all get a life.
As far as endangering her child,that's PPD.Holding that agaisnt her is so low.PPD is endangering yourself and your child.Chloe needed help,she was getting it and was getting better.She took a step backward when she learned she won't get shared custody but she was getting better and didn't endanger her child again.
And everyone (kate,Philip,Victor,....)seem to forget that if that murderer(Kate) is still alive it's thanks to Chloe.But I guess it doesn't matter.They are Kiriakis so they can get away with everything.They don't have to like her,but they should get the hell off her back and stop acting like their sons are innocent victims.Choe is nothing like Kate THANK GOD.She's compassionate,caring forgiving.....with her flaws,issues,.....but human.Kate is none of that
And kicking someone when they're down shows excatly the kind of person you are:Coward and heartless.
I'm sorry but I don't get it
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Post by Pallison on Apr 24, 2011 12:21:33 GMT -5
BRAVO....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by susala on Apr 24, 2011 13:25:38 GMT -5
One other thought. If Kate and Victor really loved Phillip and their grandson, it would be in everyone's best interest for them to swallow their pride and nastiness and welcome Chloe into the family. Whether Chloe is in a committed relationship with Phillip or not isn't the point. Chloe is that baby's mother. The way Kate and Victor treat the mother will ultimately impact the child. The hatred they express toward Chloe will really harm (I forget the baby's name!) the child's self esteem, at the very least. They are NOT being loving grandparents who are trying to do what is best for their son and grandson.
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Post by sportsgirl on Apr 24, 2011 13:45:45 GMT -5
One other thought. If Kate and Victor really loved Phillip and their grandson, it would be in everyone's best interest for them to swallow their pride and nastiness and welcome Chloe into the family. Whether Chloe is in a committed relationship with Phillip or not isn't the point. Chloe is that baby's mother. The way Kate and Victor treat the mother will ultimately impact the child. The hatred they express toward Chloe will really harm (I forget the baby's name!) the child's self esteem, at the very least. They are NOT being loving grandparents who are trying to do what is best for their son and grandson. Yes I wrote the same thing. It's for Parker's sake. |
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Post by susala on Apr 24, 2011 14:58:43 GMT -5
Yes, you did, Sportsgirl. I guess I forgot...just like I momentarily forgot Parker's name. Duh!
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Post by sportsgirl on Apr 24, 2011 17:14:18 GMT -5
Yes, you did, Sportsgirl. I guess I forgot...just like I momentarily forgot Parker's name. Duh! I've done that as I keep wanting to call him Wesley... right jkjpatch?? |
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Post by MrsM on Apr 24, 2011 20:34:44 GMT -5
Kate did the same exact thing to Sami that she is doing to Chloe. It is in her character. I don't think it really has anything to do with Chloe, but more Kate thinking that no one is good enough for her children. I think it is Kate's issue and she projects it on other people to look like they have the problem, not her.
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Post by fluffysmom on Apr 24, 2011 20:57:05 GMT -5
It is ridiculous that Kate and Victor still hate Chloe for the rape accusation. Yes it was wrong of Chloe but they were teenagers and they were the ones who put Philip in the position to lie to Chloe about Victor's "death" in the first place. Everything that happened between Philip and Chloe since she returned was completely mutual. She never seduced him. He was a more than willing participant. Chloe was the one who was treated like a total slut after the ONS.
Brady went after Chloe. She was not the one chasing him. She didn't cause him to do drugs. They were young and got married and it didn't last. I think Chloe went to Brady because she couldn't handle the intensity of Philip's feelings for her back then.
Lucas didn't deserve to be cheated on but I don't think they should have gotten married in the first place. It was a case of if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. They had some hot sex and tried to make it into more than it really was. Chloe married him out of guilt and obligation which was wrong.
Daniel reaped what he sowed. He cheated with Chloe and then was horrified that she would cheat on him.
Obviously, Chloe is insecure despite her incredible beauty. She is looking for someone to truly love her for herself. Maybe she can't find it because she already had her one true love and nothing will ever compare to that kind of love again! In case you are new, I am PHLOE all the way!
So basically, Victor and Kate pick on someone your own size so to speak. Chloe is the mother of your grandchild, as much as that pisses you off, so deal with it!
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