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Post by Kpatch on Mar 19, 2011 20:38:22 GMT -5
Melanie's weepy explanation to Nathan about why she can't be with him made no sense to me.  It seemed like a non-explanation. It seemed like she was working really hard to make it sound logical, but it was lost on me. She kept saying she's not the same girl. Okay, I get that she's been through a lot. A lot. But considering what Nathan thinks they had and what she led him to believe they had, I can't really blame him for thinking she'll come around. She's said no to him in the past, but she always made that no sound like maybe. The whole encounter left me cold, not unlike their whole unrelationship. Here's the clip. Did anyone else get it? If so, please explain it to me. |
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Post by karebr13 on Mar 19, 2011 20:58:05 GMT -5
Nothing Melanie has said or done since the reveal has made any sense to me so I don't even bother to try to understand what she is saying anymore. When she had her breakup scenes with Philip at the Pub the same thing happened. She kept contradicting herself with the dialogue about why they couldn't be together anymore when she loved him and loved Parker. I have been having a real hard time paying attention to anything she says anymore. I wonder if after Nathan leaves if she is going to decide she made a mistake in letting him go. Same thing with Philip.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 19, 2011 21:02:07 GMT -5
Thanks karebr! Glad to know it's not just me. Lack of comprehension loves company. LOL.
And I agree that she was toying with Philip's emotions mercilessly during that whole breakup scene at the pub.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 19, 2011 21:03:57 GMT -5
Since I knew it was going to be one of those "It's over. Leave me alone." type of conversations I honestly FF'd through it. She cried. He left. Story over. NEXT.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 20, 2011 8:12:02 GMT -5
I tuned it out and didn't really listen to them blathering to each other.
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Post by Sparkster on Mar 20, 2011 15:06:00 GMT -5
I kinda see what you're saying patch. Melanie's always been wishy-washy with Nathan. The words coming out of her mouth were saying that it's over and they will never be together and he needs to get over it. But with all the crying and emotion and soft voice, I wouldn't blame Nathan for thinking she'll still come around eventually. I'm sure it's hard to stay composed since there still are probably some feelings there and her hormones are probably still out of whack, but I wish she would have been more forceful with him. Instead of trying to be sweet and gentle about it, show a little anger, raise your voice at him, something to send a clear picture that it's OVER.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 21, 2011 15:45:37 GMT -5
I loved these scenes they were a long time coming. I totally understood it because this was an underlying theme of the story all along...as you can see in the commentary I wrote on the clip above.
Nathan is in love with a version of Melanie that never really existed. Melanie loved that Nathan saw that version in her, the Melanie she probably would have been if she had been raised by Daniel and Carly. She so wanted to be that girl. Philip liked her any which way, she could be herself, but there was a part of her that didn't like herself. You know she has esteem issues. And if she didn't like herself what does that say about someone who liked her just how she was? So she wanted to hold onto the feeling that Nathan gave her...how she looked through his eyes (and she has said that on the show). It wasn't about the man (she let Nathan go repeatedly), it was about holding onto the dream that she could be "Melanie Jonas", the woman that Nathan saw.
So what she said to Nathan was her finally realizing and having the courage to admit that she was holding onto something she was never going to have...because she is not that person. Best line. ...."all we have are memories and half of them are not even true." That is dead on accurate account of their whole relationship. She also once again put it out there that she would have always chosen Philip over him. Right or wrong she had a passion for Philip that she just did not have with Nathan. Which was reiterated when Daniel tells her if it just doesn't FEEL right, then it won't work in the end.
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Post by Trey on Mar 21, 2011 16:58:15 GMT -5
I was thinking a lot about this over the weekend.
Melanie never really loved Nathan or Philip. Sure, she "loved" them in their own way, but was never truly in love with either man.
When she was with Phil, she wasn't truly loyal to him. She liked the life he gave her, liked being with him, but loved having another man fawn after her. She was disloyal in her heart with Nathan (by professing love to him and keeping him at a distance, but at her beck and call).
Now that Nathan is available and she's available, she doesn't want him. She never really loved him, and liked to keep him at a distance. He was her prize to hold over Stephanie.
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Post by slyn11 on Mar 21, 2011 17:18:50 GMT -5
Nothing Melanie has said or done since the reveal has made any sense to me so I don't even bother to try to understand what she is saying anymore. When she had her breakup scenes with Philip at the Pub the same thing happened. She kept contradicting herself with the dialogue about why they couldn't be together anymore when she loved him and loved Parker. I have been having a real hard time paying attention to anything she says anymore. I wonder if after Nathan leaves if she is going to decide she made a mistake in letting him go. Same thing with Philip. I can explain the pub break up thing easily. Melanie felt like there was no place in Philip's life for her. Philip had a baby with her father's wife. Melanie didn't want to bring that type of pain onto Daniel by being the stepmother to the baby that Daniel just gave up rights to. Melanie wasn't being contradictory at all. If Philip had knocked up any other woman on the planet, she would have stood by him, but in this case she could not. She put her family first. She loves Philip but she cannot be with him under these circumstances. |
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 21, 2011 17:49:32 GMT -5
Thank you slyn for your analysis! It helps a lot. Even Melanie's comment that "half of them weren't true" didn't make sense. It does when you explain it, but it seemed like it needed more explanation. I guess the show didn't want to invest any more dialogue into this couple. They didn't invest much into the buildup, so why invest in the breakup.
Oh and thank you for the youtube clip. I neglected to give you proper credit!
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