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[Kpatch]

Some of you have commented that Philip and Chloe need to deal with their problems. Can you explain what you would like to see? How should they deal with their problems that they haven't already done? The author thinks they have already talked things out and discussed their actions leading up to the accident. So, what kind of conversation would you like to see them have?

[mae00]

I want a full disclosure conversation between them. And I'm not talking about a highlevel, sugarcoated, "Baby you did nothing wrong, it wasn't your fault" or "I should have been there, I should have seen/known" conversation. I want the down and dirty, bare your soul, lay it all out on the table conversation. I'm not looking for a blame game to start, but I think both sides need to have their reactions to what the other has done and what has happened. The full stories and the reactions need to get out in the open without the other trying to deviate or interrupt.

Chloe needs to explain fully to Philip why she didn't tell him about Brady. Why she kept it a secret and why for so long. Did it have to do with Philip's temper, his feelings toward Brady or something else? Not the "I felt I owed it to him because of our history" lines.

Philip needs to fully divulge how bad it got while Chloe was in the coma. Yes, she knows that Shawn and Belle kept Parker, but does she know for how long Philip couldn't function? Does she know that Parker had almost disowned Philip and that Parker lost his faith and trust in his father? Does she know that he almost jumped off a building? Does she know how many other people actually had to step in to help Parker in Philip's absence? Philip needs to own up to ALL of this. Including any guilt he feels for not being in town that night and if he is holding onto any resentment towards Parker (regardless of how right or wrong his feelings may be) because he was out of town with and because of Parker wanting to go to the ball game. I know that Victor's death right before all of this happening didn't help his mental state, and that can be acknowledged, but that doesn't need to be the focus. He still made the choices he made and needs to come to grips with them. Not gloss over them with a birthday party and finally taking Parker back home.

And I know this is a touchy area with many people because grief is different for everyone and doesn't have a time table, but right now Chloe is still living in denial. Yes she knows that Victoria has died, but she's wanting to blame herself and live in her own pity so she hasn't really grieved. She's going to have to face this at some point and the longer she puts it off, the worse it will be. She needs to go down to the mausoleum and hit that portion of her grief head on. She will always grieve for her daughter but right now she's traipsing between the "If I don't acknowledge it, it isn't real" and the "It's all my fault" line. Philip doesn't have to be the one to confront it with her. It may not be a good idea for her to go alone but I think having Mary go with her would be best. Mary would stand back and give her the space she needs while being there if needed.

Then I think Chloe is going to have to confront Brady and at some point speak to Maggie and come to terms with Daniel's involvement in things. She's living in a bubble right now - which is what she kept telling everyone in the hospital that she didn't want to do. She can't have it both ways so she's going to have to decide if all of this is going to make her stronger or if she is going to let it bury her. She can't keep bouncing back and forth.

[doolfan4life]

I tend to agree with the author personally
One being that this is her story and it should be told as she sees fit
Two it’s been acknowledged that they are seeking therapy together and individually, including Parker, it hasn’t been that long since Chloe woke up so her reactions are kind of spot on imo and Philip not wanting to fight for his company also tells me hes not ready to try and force anything yet
To me he’s been telling her bits and pieces of what had happened while she was in a coma and it’s what she can handle
I don’t think he’s lying about it he’s worried she might have a seizure again
Three as a person who enjoys couples being happy I don’t want to personally read a shrink book, hard pass
I’d rather a few extra steamy scenes, it’s a soap after all
This story includes other people in Salem so I’m happy for the therapy breakthroughs to be mostly “offscreen” with just a few pop ins from Mary here and there

[mae00]

I agree that this is her story and she can tell it anyway she wants. I did not mean for my comments to be critical of her writing and if they came across that way, I apologize. As a person who is not a fan of Chloe's kpatch has done a wonderful job getting me to stay interested in this story. She asked what we would like to see and that's what I want between two of them and for me, what it would take to see the full growth in each of them individually and in their relationship. If it doesn't happen, then so be it. There's always things in a story (whether it be a book or television) that people would like to see or not see. We comment on it everyday with the show. In the end as long as kpatch is happy with her story, then that's really all that matters.

[Trey]

I understand mae00 s point of view. I think Chloe got off a little too easy not knowing what hell she put Philip through. Everyone danced around the subject, and he didn't want her to be depressed even more. But, he keeps sugar coating that "yeah, I'm mad as hell that you put Brady over our family". She doesn't know that he had to go on meds just to function. Or that he went to see his other son, and ignored his own. This hell wasn't just for her. Plus he was dealing with the death of his dad. He's broken and hasn't mended.

I agree that @kpatch is writing a great story, and since you asked for what more, I think Philip's point of view (and heck even Parker's) can be expanded. Though I think you're touching on this with the dialog now.