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Post by MrsM on Mar 5, 2012 8:30:06 GMT -5
I kept wondering how that scene with Carl would be important. I kept thinking it would have something to do with the gun.
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Post by Minako98 on Mar 5, 2012 8:54:54 GMT -5
I thought that Carl would shoot someone after he found that gun. Ok, I know he's is a kid, he's curious and all... but OMG the walker in the mud - that is playing with fire. I hope now he realizes that his actions have consequences. He's also getting a bit jaded, don't ya think? I just knew that Rick wouldn't be able to kill Randall. Even if Carl hadn't walked in, I don't think he would have been able to do it. Hershel giving Glenn the watch. I had a tear in my eye. The fact that he accepts Glenn made me feel all warm and fuzzy. Only two more episodes until the season ends.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 5, 2012 9:36:57 GMT -5
Hershel giving Glen the watch makes me think that something is going to happen to one of them. At first I thought maybe Glen but hubby thinks something will happen to Hershel. I didn't see something happening to Dale coming. That shocked me.
I think Rick would have killed Randall had Carl not walked in but I think it would have been his undoing. If he would have killed Randall he would have started to question himself and he would have went downhill from there.
I wonder if Carl will admit he is the one that basically led the walker to them?
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Post by Tom Horton on Mar 5, 2012 10:44:03 GMT -5
Minako, did you say a bit jaded?
I think Carl is becoming downright cold - he's acting like a mini-Shane. The thing with the walker was stupid, but he's a kid so he's going to do stupid things. It's how coldly he told Carol she was stupid for believing in heaven and then that he wanted Rick to kill that guy in the barn that has me the most concerned. I know Rick and Laurie have a lot of things to worry about already but they may want to consider moving Carl a little higher up that list. I would like to think that maybe Carl's behavior would be a wake up call for Shane but unfortunately, I think it's too late at this point ... but Carl could still be redirected if his parents realize it soon enough.
I HATE that Dale is the one who died ... and wonder how it's going to effect Andrea. She's another that's been going off the deep end but she was so happy to be able to tell Dale that his efforts to save the barn guy worked ... and then, poor Dale. Daryl is another one who could go either way in response to Dale's death. I like Daryl a lot so I'm pulling for him to come more into Rick's corner (like Dale would have wanted) rather than going out on his own.
I enjoyed the Hershel/Glen scene too. I feel bad for Hershel. I know he was wrong about the walkers but he really needs to stop beating himself up and realize that in spite of it, he was keeping his people safe and cared for until Rick and his group showed up. They are the ones who have caused all the trouble for him and his.... even the walkers who killed Dale were brought there by one of Rick's. Herschel did better by his group in thinking the things could be cured and "rescuing" them than all of Shane's bravado escapades.... and now Carl trying to follow in his footsteps. Shane is a very bad influence on the whole group and Hershel's bigger mistake was in not sticking to his guns about making Shane leave.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 5, 2012 13:03:20 GMT -5
Andrea is in a bad position now. I think she loves Shane but he obviously doesn't love her back and her only other confidant is now gone. She doesn't get along with anyone else in the group and now she is going to be even more isolated than she was before. This could be really bad for the group to have an outsider on the inside. She could start to self destruct and that is dangerous.
I think Carl's behavior at the barn was a wake up call for Rick. I think he is starting to realize what this is doing to him.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 11, 2012 21:35:32 GMT -5
Ho. Lee. Cow.
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Post by Tom Horton on Mar 12, 2012 8:47:05 GMT -5
Saw it! I'll wait to make sure Minako has seen it before I make additional comments.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 12, 2012 8:58:59 GMT -5
I went to bed last night seeing that last scene over and over again.
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Post by Tom Horton on Mar 13, 2012 10:09:53 GMT -5
It's Tuesday, so enough waiting @mm, Did you happen to catch the "Talking Dead" episode afterwards? They were confused by why Shane turned when he died, but thanks to you sharing your husband's catch about Shane cutting himself with the same knife that he killed the zombies with, I think that's the answer. It would also explain why he was so much weirder than normal and how the Randall guy got turned. They didn't show us how Shane killed him but maybe it was the same knife? Daryl and Glen said he wasn't bitten.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 13, 2012 11:01:42 GMT -5
I didn't watch the Talking Dead.
Shane snapped Randall's neck. I don't think them turning had anything to do with being bitten. I think whoever dies comes back as a walker. I think that that is going to be the big revelation. I think we will see a zombie Dale in the season finale.
I sat through the whole last 15 minutes with my mouth hanging wide open. I was just floored. Especially when Carl shot walker Shane square in the forehead. I was glad that Rick finally realized how dangerous Shane was and eliminated the threat.
I also love how this is the umpteenth time that Carl has gotten into trouble under his mother's vigilant watch.
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Post by Tom Horton on Mar 13, 2012 11:14:58 GMT -5
Darryl shot Dale through the head because he was attacked by a zombie. I thought that was the point of shooting him in the head, so that he would die completely instead of returning as a zombie.
Your theory about whoever dies coming back as a walker is in line with the speculation on "Talking Dead", I just thought they were missing the point about Shane's double dipping with the knife, but you're right about how Randall was killed (I had forgotten Darryl saying that his neck was broken) so that would mean that all of the dead will be coming back as zombies.
When Rick was telling Shane to just put his gun down and Rick was the only one lowering his weapon, I kept thinking "you don't see that he still has his gun pointed right at you why are you still trusting him and putting yours down"... I wasn't expecting Rick's trick play. I've got to stop underestimating Rick.
I don't know what to say about Carl. He's only a kid so maybe with Shane's influence gone from the group and Andrea starting to act human again in the aftermath of Dale's passing that maybe Carl can still be salvaged, because he's on a dangerous path. The other interesting thing on "Talking Dead" was that one of them made a comment (that was mostly joking) that with Shane gone, the only troublemakers left are Carl and Laurie.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 13, 2012 12:19:43 GMT -5
You're right about Daryl shooting Dale in the head. I kind of thought Rick was going to take Shane down once he started moving in closer. You could almost see it in his eyes.
Carl and Laurie are troublemakers. I am afraid that Carl seeing Rick kill Shane is going to do a lot of damage to him. He was already fragile and distant from reality, and I think that this could push him even further over the edge. Yes he did save Rick, but I don't think that their relationship will be any better. Rick essentially gave him the talk that it was time to buck up and be a man, that he can't be a child any longer. I think he is still too young to be able to grasp that concept and truly deal with it.
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Post by Tom Horton on Mar 13, 2012 13:53:09 GMT -5
^^ I agree. It's hard enough to grow up as an adult, much less to expect it from a child. I agree with what Rick told Carl and why he has no choice but to expect him to grow up, but it's easier said than done.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 13, 2012 13:57:36 GMT -5
They are keeping a pretty tight lid on the finale. I am curious to see what happens. I saw a spoiler somewhere that they are bringing in a character from the comic books for next season. I think he is supposed to be a general in the military or something along those lines. Don't quote me on that I could be remembering wrong.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 16, 2012 11:31:18 GMT -5
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