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Post by Pallison on Mar 10, 2011 17:16:04 GMT -5
Help me out here people...why is everyone telling Sami to stick it out with Rafe and it is her duty/responsibility/place etc. to be his rock and stick with him and give him time etc. etc. etc.....  Sami is living with a virtual stranger (I'm going to talk in the sense that Rafe2 is Rafe because no one but us chickens know about the switch  )....a man who is behaving totally different than the man she loves....he's been mean to her children, he's been mean to her, he's more aggressive in bed than she likes...she is uncomfortable with him, in and out of bed, her kids are uncomfortable with him, he is the polar opposite of what he was before the accident.... Sooooooo......Why should Sami have to put up with it...?? If he were the real Rafe with some kind of trauma/brain damage/etc causing the change in him, I would still be asking "Why should she have to live with and sleep with a man who she feels is a total stranger to her"...and is crappy to her and her young children to boot.....?? That is wrong on so many levels, I don't know where to start.... Sami, go with your what your gut is telling you....go with what your heart is telling you, go with what your head is telling you...get the heck away from the guy......let him figure it out living somewhere other than with you..... And why oh why would you listen to a 103 year old woman who can't find her way out of the kitchen without directions, but successfully hacked a hospital computer to ruin a dozen lives cause she wanted to give her bratty granddaughter a boyfriend for Christmas.....and why would you take advice from a just released convict that tried to cut her husband's throat and set fire to him I believe, after she went around bonking guys on the head and robbing them..... Run Sami Run....!!!!! |
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Post by Trey on Mar 10, 2011 17:20:20 GMT -5
She's listening to them because she's asked them for help. They're all basically telling her to be patient with him and that head wounds take time.
I think in real life, I'd give her the same information to a friend/family member.
I do want to add that I wouldn't encourage her to jump into bed with him if she didn't want to. These women aren't, and it's proving once again that Sami is mistaken love for sex. If she feels empty after she and Rafe are together and feels that something is "off" between them, then she should address it with him honestly instead of jumping into bed with him and feeling cheap about it later.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 10, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -5
Who else in town is she going to get advice from? Apparently phones don't work, so she can't call her mother.
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Post by Pallison on Mar 10, 2011 17:35:38 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, I think she told Hope she hadn't talked with her mom because she knew she would just tell her to give him time or something to that effect....
And I still have to disagree trey.....no one should have to live with someone (sex or no sex) that makes them uncomfortable, uneasy, and fearful....and also has flashes of meanness and ill feelings toward not only her but her young children and it is happening more and more often....Sami was worried enough about Rafe's feelings toward Allie and Allie's feelings toward Rafe to agree to let them send Allie away.....my advice is move him out, encourage him to have some therapy and tell the medical doctors to run more tests until they can figure out what to do.....
The man she married and loves is gone.....if and when he comes back, then they can see if they both want to resume the relationship.....
But that's just me.... ;D
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Post by lovinsafe on Mar 10, 2011 17:37:50 GMT -5
Sami is feeling guilty because of the accident...Sami always blames herself for everything that happens to her! Rafe has been willing to die for her and she knows that, and he was trying to keep her from doing something stupid and crashed into a tree, so in her mind it’s her fault! Then you have everyone telling her it’s going to take time it’s a head injury including fake Rafe! I would like to see the old Sami that is savvy, smart, and confident, never listens to everyone back! They have made her dumb for 5 years now! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!! |
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Post by Trey on Mar 10, 2011 17:38:56 GMT -5
I agree Pallison!
I don't think Sami is really telling them the whole effect. I haven't seen today's episode, but in the past, she says that he's frustrated and that he's not the guy she fell in love with.
That is totally natural for someone who had a head trauma.
But, I would never advise someone to stick with their sig. other if they felt threatened or if their kids were threatened. I don't think Sami is telling the whole story and they don't have a clear picture of what's going on.
Edited to add: that if she came to me and told me the same thing, I'd probably say the same thing. If she came to me and said she felt that Rafe was a danger to her or her children, I'd tell her to run. Make sense?
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Post by Pallison on Mar 10, 2011 17:40:48 GMT -5
At the first of Sami and Hope's conversation today, I thought I saw a spark come into Hope's eyes when Sami was talking about how different Rafe is, like he's not even the same man...and I thought, oh boy, Hope is going to get curious, look into it, talk with Rafe2 and see that he is indeed an imposter and solve the whole thing....but then she fell into the stupid pool and told Sami to do her wifely/womanly duty and stick by her man no matter what...that's her place/her job/her reason for being...!!! AAAAGGHHH...!!!
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Post by Trey on Mar 10, 2011 17:41:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen the scene yet, but I can only imagine it set women back into the 50s  |
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Post by ghoulgirl on Mar 10, 2011 17:51:15 GMT -5
That was my first thought too pallison. I think that would be a good storyline for Hope right now. Helping Sami find Rafe. I enjoyed their scenes together.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 10, 2011 19:25:06 GMT -5
Somehow I don't think Sami's afraid yet. She seems more sad and frustrated. If those were the only emotions/concerns that she shared with me, I'd probably say the same thing as everyone else. "Give it time. He'll be fine. You'll get your man back." The moment she said she was scared, I'd say run. Just grab the kids that are there and run.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 10, 2011 23:10:52 GMT -5
For the longest time, it bugged me that Sami and Rafe's relationship was all one sided. He did all the giving, she did all the taking. I couldn't see why he even cared about her. All she was, was Trouble with a capital T.
So now it's her turn to be kind and understanding and give him unconditional love and support and patience. She probably thinks she owes him at least that much.
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 11, 2011 2:13:57 GMT -5
I feel that talking to Hope about this was probably the wrong thing for Sami to do simply because Hope also harbours her own guilt for what she knows she did to Bo and the other men she attacked.
Also,as others have said,she hasn't admitted to being fearful yet.Bothered by his behaviour,yes.She was bothered enough to send one of her children to be with her father for a while.So she does on some level I think,fear for her children.She made a good move there in my opinion.The red flags are finally going off for her,so I'm hoping she digs deeper into this and really figures out that something isn't right.Her biggest red flag so far is when "Rafe"went in for testing and the test showed he had never been in an accident.I wasn't thrilled at first that Sami really couldn't figure out something wasn't right,but I'm satisfied that she's now questioning his behaviour more seriously.
Oh and for the record,the second she admits to fearing him herself,I'd tell her to pack up herself,her kids and get the hell outta dodge!
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 11, 2011 9:37:44 GMT -5
I don't think Sami's fear/suspicion of Rafe had anything to do with Allie leaving. From Sami's perspective, Lucas called one day and said "I've booked a trip for Allie. I'd like to see my daughter. Her ticket is for tonight." I'm surprised she didn't question it more, but she didn't SEND Allie away. She just let her go on a trip. Off topic: Talk about a Fruedian slip, Each time I go to type "Rafe" when I'm thinking of Rafe2, I always, ALWAYS, type "Rage." Not too much of a hidden meaning there. |
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Post by Sparkster on Mar 11, 2011 9:38:17 GMT -5
Don't ya guys know that Sami needs to be dumbed down in order for this storyline to work? And especially since this whole thing is at the hands of the DiMera's. Sami's not allowed to be smart because it would make the DiMera's and Rafe 2 look stupid. That's the m.o. of this writing regime.  |
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Post by djm on Mar 11, 2011 9:55:13 GMT -5
I agree. Yes head trauma can take time to heal. But that does not mean that Sami has to be living with Rafe2 while she thinks he is a danger to her and her children. (She sent Allie away because of Rafe2) He should be followed more closely by the doctors and Sami and the kids can stay with Caroline for a while until Rafe is better. I agree that everyone is giving Sami bad advice. But then again she never asked me. The most important thing that no one told her is that sometimes the person never dose completely return to normal, she should be thinking about what to do if that is the case with Rafe.
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)....a man who is behaving totally different than the man she loves....he's been mean to her children, he's been mean to her, he's more aggressive in bed than she likes...she is uncomfortable with him, in and out of bed, her kids are uncomfortable with him, he is the polar opposite of what he was before the accident....
