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Post by bradydiva06 on Oct 2, 2011 22:10:22 GMT -5
I hope this source is wrong. Just keep Daniel as Victor's god son and that is it.
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Post by Tom Horton on Oct 2, 2011 23:53:58 GMT -5
If that were true, then there is no getting rid of Dr. "CreepingHands" Jonas. I disagree, clearly the easiest way to ensure that a character will be shooed out of Salem is if they are a "Horton". Unfortunately, I can confirm that this spoiler is accurate. I think it's insulting to Horton fans but it's just too dumb and pointless of an idea to even bother being angry about. Making Daniel a quasi Kiriakis didn't help him any so I guess they think if they make him the son of the most loved woman in Salem that will finally do the trick. They could make Daniel's biological father Sean Brady and he would still be an irrelevant sleaze bag that will never be of any interest to me .... and the same goes for that annoying daughter of his. The character has been around how many years and TPTB are still trying to find a way to make him popular - what's the definition of insanity again? If TPTB would spend half the creative energy they put toward desperate ploys to convince the audience to accept these cheap substitute characters, into truly restoring Days, I'm sure they could write some intriguing stories. But this... this is just more of the same in a different package. |
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Post by karebr13 on Oct 3, 2011 0:30:49 GMT -5
Thanks Kazz for confirming this spoiler as being true. Still don't like the fact that the new writers think that this is something that most viewers want to see. Daniel is the most unpopular and hated character on Days right now and making him Maggie's son and Victor's stepson is not going to make people like Daniel any better. In fact it is probably going to cause people to hate him even more. I never thought that any one character could ever be hated more than Rafe but somehow Daniel managed to take over the #1 spot on most message boards and polls as the one character that should leave the show and be killed off in a way that he can never come back. Why can't the writers have any characters on the show not be related to each other? Not every single character needs to be tied down to one of the core families on the show to have a storyline and stay on the show. Other soaps have managed to not have every one related to each so why can't Days figure out how to do that? There is no need to give Maggie a son when she already has 2 daughters that could easily be brought back to give Maggie a child in Salem.
The thing is no matter how good the writing may be for this storyline the fact is that there is just no real good reason why the writers need to even bother with this just to tie Maggie and Melanie together by blood. Maggie and Melanie already have a close mother/daughter relationship that has worked out just fine for them. There are plenty of other ways to give Maggie and Victor a storyline without throwing a secret son in the mix for Maggie and plus both Maggie and Victor have plenty of family already that they could interact with so there just is no need to make Daniel and Maggie mother and son. IMO this is going to end up being a real epic failure for the new writers and they are going to end up undoing this especially since a lot of posters over on the DR website are campaigning to get this storyline changed before it even airs. This just is not the perfect way to bring back and keep having viewers watch this show.
I really was trying to be cautiously optimistic that these new writers would be able to make me stay interested in watching Days but now after seeing this spoiler I am not so sure that their stories are going to end up being a whole lot better than DH's.
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Post by Tom Horton on Oct 3, 2011 1:12:27 GMT -5
^^ I agree with all of that Karebr. I think most people tend to resent feeling like someone is trying to manipulate or push them into something and that's what this storyline feels like the writers are trying to do to the audience. I'm not surprised that there is protest against this storyline. Maggie is beloved by most Days' fans and Daniel has long been the butt of much ridicule from many. I remember when I used to visit the NBC site (back when I was merely indifferent to him), there were giant threads dedicated to Daniel hate and running jokes in numerous threads about his sleazy attraction to his patients, etc. I don't see trying to shove a manufactured connection to Maggie making any difference to Daniel's critics. In fact, I think it's what you said, his critics will just hate him more because of it.... and in the meantime TPTB are detracting from the story that people really want to see - the romance between Maggie & Victor. Dumb move all the way around and not the way to inspire confidence in the new writers.
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Post by karebr13 on Oct 3, 2011 5:23:45 GMT -5
My biggest issue with this whole storyline doesn't even have anything to do with my extreme dislike for Daniel and Melanie. In fact I am finally starting to warm up to Melanie a little bit now that she has been put into the early 20's age group where she is hanging out with people her own age and it looks like she may even be put into a triangle with Chad and Abigail which actually doesn't even bother me at all since MB and CD have real natural chemistry with each other that goes beyond acting.
The thing that bothers me about this whole storyline is that it seems like the new writers by having Maggie marry Victor are trying to move Maggie out of the Horton family and give her a family of her own to focus on with Victor and to end up being the new Kiriakis family on the show. I don't want to see Maggie being pushed out of the Horton family now that Mickey is dead. Even though Maggie is not related to the Horton's by blood I still want to consider her a Horton. This is one of the main reason's why I never could get behind having Maggie marry Victor and would rather just have them keep on dating and hanging out with each other. Lots of older couples in real life when they are Maggie and Victor's age don't get married and instead just enjoy each other's company without the whole commitment thing. There are a whole lot of other storyline opportunities for both Maggie and Victor without giving them a new family especially since both of them already have their own families that could easily be brought back on the show for them to interact with.
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Post by Kpatch on Oct 3, 2011 6:02:38 GMT -5
I've always liked Maggie and Melanie's relationship, moreso because it was borne out of genuine friendship and trust, and not blood ties. They chose to be mother/daughter to each other, which to me can be a stronger bond than family.
I am also concerned that, rather than elevating Daniel's stature, this storyline will reduce Maggie's stature. She gave up a child for some unknown, out-of-character reason -- and since Daniel is well into his 40s, you can't blame it on Stefano. Maybe they're going to say there was a baby switch between Daniel and the daughter Maggie had.
We shall see.
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Post by jaysdelina on Oct 3, 2011 7:02:23 GMT -5
The funny thing is,Vic told Mel she'll always be family,no matter what happend with her and Philip.The thing is,now she really WILL be,lol.With her being Maggie's bio granddaughter,Vic will now have moved from father in law to step-grandfather,lol.This storyline doesn't sound too bad to me.I like the idea that Maggie either made a mistake,or somehow thought she lost a child only to have him resurface again.It gives Maggie more layers and shows that she's indeed NOT perfect.There ARE some positives to this.
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Post by DancingDays on Oct 3, 2011 8:44:53 GMT -5
After reading a lot of valid points from other posters, I have some (hopefully valid) thoughts of my own. 1. This makes Maggie more layered. - I agree! Although Maggie had a great many layers in her time (the 70s), I imagine most viewers now either don't know, or have forgotten, that she used to be an amazingly complex woman. She's mostly been relegated to the psudeo-Alice position, and she's become too one-dimensional. All saint and nothing else. I'm looking forward to having her deal with this news. But I still don't understand how a woman can have a child and not know about it.  However, a thought just occured to me. If Maggie was pregnant with TWINS, and for some reason didn't know it, it might make sense. I imagine that her delivery was hard, and possibly it was a C-Section, so it's very plausible that she would LITERALLY have no knowledge of being pregnant with him. That would work for me, I guess. 2. Daniel needs to leave. - While he's not my favorite, I don't think he's so bad that I'd rather see him dead. He's been great with Jenn, and he finally seems to be acting like an adult instead of a sex-crazed, horndog, "Doctor." <-- and yes, I use the quotes on purpose. Any Doc that slept with as many patients as he has would, undoubtedly, be forbidden to continue to practice. 3. Daniel is the most hated man in Salem. - Really? My lovely British hunk no longer holds that title?  4. It's a bad move by the writers. - It seems a bit lazy, but I don't think it's a terrible idea. There have certainly been storylines that were MUCH worse. Maggie and Melanie obviously don't need a blood-link to be as close as they are and I totally agree that chosen family is often tighter than blood family. But this seems like a nice way to go that doesn't besmirch anyone's character. Of course, if Maggie gave him up voluntarily for some really lame reason, that would be completely out of character for her. So I'll wait to see how they explain it before I vote Yay or Nay. |
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Post by extrememakeover on Oct 3, 2011 8:52:03 GMT -5
So Daniel is supposely Maggie's son?
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Parker named after Daniel's mother,who supposely was blond and Melanie supposely looked like her?Abnd this is the new writers material?They suck as much as DH does.The propping of st Daniel is going on...disgusting..They get rid of Chloe,Shawn,Belle,Lucas,Stephanie and Philip who was so disgusted by the writing he left, and prop two disgusting characters like Daniel and Melanie tying them up to the Horton...what a joke! I'm glad I'm done with the show.
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Post by puddleduck on Oct 3, 2011 9:08:39 GMT -5
This is a rotten idea and I am very disappointed in the writers. I don't hate Daniel and was actually liking his pairing with Jen. If he turns out to be Maggie's son, that is just ick. Blood ties or no blood ties. And why would Alice hide it for all these years?
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Post by sportsgirl on Oct 3, 2011 9:13:07 GMT -5
Parker could still be Daniel's mother name.. Obviously he was raised by a set of parents who knew Victor and that was why Daniel was his godson.
I don't necessarily believe JKJ left because of the writing. He left before for greener pastures & this time for the same reason. Believe it or not, some actors do want to work in other genres besides soaps!
I may be a minority but I have never hated Daniel. Maybe dislike on occassion but then again I have disliked other characters because of their actions. It took two to tango when it came to Danloe.
I am curious to see how this works out but as DD pointed out, I wonder how Maggie would not have known unless it was twins..
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Post by extrememakeover on Oct 3, 2011 9:23:44 GMT -5
It takes two to tango.Exactly.It was Daniels' actions that led to Chloe's reactions.Yet the only one who was blamed ,treated like crap,thrown under the buys is Chloe.Daniel is treated like a poor blameless innocent victim,.a saint, perfect,God's gift to women.He took no share of responsibilty and balme for what happened to Danloe.And he surely got over the so called love of his life,,the woman he claimed to love more than life faster than he could blink.
yes he could have been raised by adoptive parents but Melanie wouldn't look like his adoptive mother,but like Maggie.Because he claimed Melanie looked like his mother...more crap from the writers
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Post by ghoulgirl on Oct 3, 2011 9:57:42 GMT -5
While I am not a major fan of this idea. I am curious to see how it unfolds and actually look forward to it. If they play it/write it the proper way, it could be a good storyline. We just have to wait and see. I remembver everyone who heard about EJ running for mayor and was so upset over it. Including myself. Now, I am actually OK with the storyline. It gives him something to focus on other the Sami for starters and I think they are going the right way with it so far anyway. I cannot judge this storyline until I hear about about it./See more of it.
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Post by Tom Horton on Oct 3, 2011 10:07:18 GMT -5
@dd, the difference between your guy and Daniel is that EJ is a villain character and therefore expected to be hated (not to such an expansive level as he is but at least it fits). Daniel is supposed to be a "good guy" and "brilliant doctor" so the fact that so many in the audience find him the exact opposite leaves him with nowhere to go.
I see your reasoning about the storyline being a way to remind the audience of Maggie's youth but this isn't going to be some deep dark secret Maggie was hiding. I almost never have "inside" info but this one time I do have just a little bit and enough to say that it won't be anything that makes Maggie a "shadier" character. I don't think it's anything that hurts Maggie as a character it's just such a dumb idea and it takes focus off of a popular, interesting character like Maggie and puts it onto an unpopular, uninteresting one like Daniel and that is even dumber than the storyline itself.
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Post by ghoulgirl on Oct 3, 2011 10:14:44 GMT -5
I wonder if this has anythign to do with Alice's secret and the fact that her secret involves Maggie?
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