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Post by kathyj on Mar 2, 2015 21:05:00 GMT -5
I have been watching the 1985 episodes of Maggie's rape and reuniting with Mickey after returning to Salem. Suzanne had returned after being away from the show for a year during her battle with MG. The scenes were beautifully written and included many characters. Today's scenes now seem so short and choppy in comparison. In the old episodes the characters had real conversations lasting for 15 minutes or more. This allowed for insight into what the characters were feeling. Mickey, Melissa, Alice, Tom and Jennifer each had a different interaction with Maggie. The writers took time to tell a full story. Do you think such conversations are a thing of the past? Do today's audiences want shorter scenes with "just the facts" type of conversation?
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Post by stickywicket on Mar 3, 2015 8:52:52 GMT -5
I have been watching the 1985 episodes of Maggie's rape and reuniting with Mickey after returning to Salem. Suzanne had returned after being away from the show for a year during her battle with MG. The scenes were beautifully written and included many characters. Today's scenes now seem so short and choppy in comparison. In the old episodes the characters had real conversations lasting for 15 minutes or more. This allowed for insight into what the characters were feeling. Mickey, Melissa, Alice, Tom and Jennifer each had a different interaction with Maggie. The writers took time to tell a full story. Do you think such conversations are a thing of the past? Do today's audiences want shorter scenes with "just the facts" type of conversation? I liked the writing in the 80's as well. It shows in the love scenes as well, today it is wham, bam, thank you ma'am!
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Post by heroicmuse on Mar 3, 2015 9:23:16 GMT -5
I don't mind if a conversation is played out over several scenes throughout the show, with breaks at dramatic times, though I do personally prefer longer conversations, and hope they're not entirely a thing of the past. I don't remember there being as many redundant, going-in-circles conversations in earlier years as there are now, or am I imagining that?
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 3, 2015 11:15:07 GMT -5
I thought this was an intriguing enough topic to warrant its own thread, so I pulled the three posts above into a new thread.
I agree. Some conversations feel rushed. Sometimes I feel like I've come into the middle and missed something.
And lately, so many big moments happened offscreen. It sometimes feels like the show rushes through things just in case it gets cancelled. But in the meantime, we are cheated of some huge moments, like how/when Sami found out EJ was cheating on her. It happened offscreen!
Missing the drama in daytime dramas.
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 3, 2015 16:18:50 GMT -5
It's frustrating that some important conversations happen off screen while other conversations go round and round day after day and go nowhere.
I think some of the rush is a result of all the immediacy in our world. People want everything quickly rather than waiting to see what will happen.
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Post by UhSir on Mar 3, 2015 17:16:12 GMT -5
I don't mind if a conversation is played out over several scenes throughout the show, with breaks at dramatic times, though I do personally prefer longer conversations, and hope they're not entirely a thing of the past. I don't remember there being as many redundant, going-in-circles conversations in earlier years as there are now, or am I imagining that? You are not imagining. I think the redundancy is because of the cut-up conversations. Every time a conversation is cut they spend the first part of the return reminding us where they left off to get us back in the mood. Between that and the overuse of flashbacks, there is a lot of wasted time. An exception was today's scenes with Jennifer, Eve and JJ. But I think that's because that was more action so the quick in-and-out worked great.
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Post by heroicmuse on Mar 3, 2015 19:08:37 GMT -5
Between that and the overuse of flashbacks, there is a lot of wasted time. Don't get me started on the insane amount of flashbacks UhSir. I hate when they use them to remind us of stuff we already know (and often they are of scenes I didn't care to watch in the first place!) I get especially annoyed when there's a flashback of something from earlier in the same episode. I have a fairly short attention span but I think I can remember what happened 15-20 minutes ago.
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Post by UhSir on Mar 3, 2015 19:47:39 GMT -5
Between that and the overuse of flashbacks, there is a lot of wasted time. Don't get me started on the insane amount of flashbacks UhSir. I hate when they use them to remind us of stuff we already know (and often they are of scenes I didn't care to watch in the first place!) I get especially annoyed when there's a flashback of something from earlier in the same episode. I have a fairly short attention span but I think I can remember what happened 15-20 minutes ago.Exactly!
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Post by stickywicket on Mar 3, 2015 20:48:26 GMT -5
I heard that Days films two days in one day, unlike in the 80's when it was a more leisurely schedule.
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 3, 2015 21:36:52 GMT -5
I like real flashbacks to a past event. I don't need flashbacks to something from the last week or two.
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Post by unavitasegreta on Mar 3, 2015 23:38:46 GMT -5
I like real flashbacks to a past event. I don't need flashbacks to something from the last week or two. Do they have to pay royalties or something to non-contract actors when they show old scenes? We get so many damn flashbacks to yesterday that it's insanely annoying. Is the show doing it because they can't afford to pay to show the old clips? I'm just curious.
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Post by fluffysmom on Mar 4, 2015 0:25:48 GMT -5
I like real flashbacks to a past event. I don't need flashbacks to something from the last week or two. Do they have to pay royalties or something to non-contract actors when they show old scenes? We get so many damn flashbacks to yesterday that it's insanely annoying. Is the show doing it because they can't afford to pay to show the old clips? I'm just curious. Good question. I would think that they would only be paid once since it's just a scene or part of a scene rather than re-airing entire episodes.
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Post by UhSir on Mar 20, 2015 16:13:02 GMT -5
Such horrible editing on the show right now. Maggie asks Daniel if she's supposed to understand Nicole's comment, Daniel makes a face and the scene ends. The next scene at Daniel's is with him and Melanie. What happened with Maggie? And later there's the scene where Ari wouldn't let go of Sonny, cut straight to Lucas and Will talking and a minute later Sonny comes out and says Ari is asleep. Huh?
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Post by kathyj on Mar 21, 2015 11:11:31 GMT -5
I also thought it was strange that Maggie asked Melanie if Brady was going to be OK. She was in the room when Daniel told Brady he would be back to normal soon.
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Post by unavitasegreta on Mar 21, 2015 14:58:34 GMT -5
I also thought it was strange that Maggie asked Melanie if Brady was going to be OK. She was in the room when Daniel told Brady he would be back to normal soon. I'd be curious to know, but they must send out script assignments in a manner that the person writing Tuesday's episode doesn't know what was written for Monday's show. I thought the same thing about Maggie. Maybe it was her worrying and needing reassurance, but it felt odd the way it came out.
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