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Post by extrememakeover on May 1, 2011 13:17:32 GMT -5
Philip never loved Chloe.He treated her like crap,asked her out on a date because he lost a bet.It was only whne he saw her in that red dress that he went after her.That's not love,sorry.She surely dodn'tbreak his heart.Brady and Daniel?They broke hers first.Lucas is the only one who didn't desirve what she did to him.
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Post by shi22 on May 1, 2011 14:44:17 GMT -5
Philip never loved Chloe.He treated her like crap,asked her out on a date because he lost a bet.It was only whne he saw her in that red dress that he went after her.That's not love,sorry.She surely dodn'tbreak his heart.Brady and Daniel?They broke hers first.Lucas is the only one who didn't desirve what she did to him. The phloe fan in me has to defend Philip here. Philip may have asked Chloe out only because he lost a bet, but he was interested in her way before the night of the last blast (Remember the night at the docks?). He also repeatedly said that it wasn't the "red dress" that attracted him to her. Yes, he was wrong for making that bet, but he regretted what he did and apologized for it multiple times. He even serenaded her as his way of saying sorry. Philip got to know the real Chloe Lane and he fell hard for her. I won't deny that Philip made his fair share of mistakes in that relationship, but so did Chloe. It's not like she's never done anything wrong. If Chloe can be forgiven for her rape accusation because she "immediately cleared his name" (which by the way, I completely agree with) then Philip should be forgiven for his mistakes in high school too. Philip's anger and and jealousy may have gotten the best of him, but ultimately, he paid for those mistakes when he lost Chloe to Brady. I also wouldn't say that Philip never loved Chloe. I have yet to see Philip look at anyone else the way he looked at Chloe. I have yet to believe any of Philip's other relationships because I saw phloe 1.0 and I saw how much Philip loved Chloe and was willing to do just about anything for her back then. He went against his parents for her. If anyone said anything bad about Chloe, Philip defended her. If Philip never loved Chloe, he wouldn't have been in so much pain when he lost her to Brady. I honestly had a hard time watching the show in the latter part of 2002 because it was heartbreaking to see Philip so miserable. |
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Post by extrememakeover on May 1, 2011 17:30:12 GMT -5
I didn't feel it that way.For me he acted like a spoiled rich boy who didn't get his toy.Sorry.
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Post by Tom Horton on May 1, 2011 17:46:06 GMT -5
I'm not a Chloe fan. She lost favor with me long, long ago. However, I like her much better than Daniel or Melanie or Carly and in any battle with them I'm totally in Chloe's corner. In Victor's case, I understand why he hates her and can't blame him. What I do have a problem with is his attitude about women, it's not just Chloe, he treats Nicole and Sami the same way. What's especially annoying is that he acted like those two spoiled little bland idiots Melanie and Stephanie were somehow worthy of more respect. Like others have mentioned, it has always bothered me that Victor (and others) have been so quick to refer to any female character on the show that they don't like as a whore (and other such terms). Unfortunately, I think that is more of a reflection of how the big wigs at Days view women in general than it is of Victor (or any other character) and that is both sad and infuriating.
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Post by extrememakeover on May 1, 2011 18:03:07 GMT -5
I blame Victor for his hate for Chloe.Chloe hurt lucas and did something stupid as a teenager when she claimed Philip raped her.But she immediatly cleared his name.But these two things don't justify such hate.Sorry.And both Daniel and Philip hurt her first,very deeply.He acts as if men in his family were innocent victims of Chloe.They're not.And she did nothing to Brady.But he blames her for his addiction.Nonsense.No.Victor is going beyond ridiculous in his hatred toward Chloe when he apologizes to Melanie the girl whow cheated on his son.Victor is a huge pathetic Joke! Calling Chloe a wh..when he is a murderer who married two wh....absurd!Chloe saved kate's life,but it doesn't matter.Claiming that Chloe seduced Philip when it was the other way around.He has a very wrong idea of Chloe but like Philip said,he doesn't even know her,he didn't take 5 minutes to sit and talk to her.And that's why Philip's overreatcion was so OOC.
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Post by Tom Horton on May 1, 2011 18:11:16 GMT -5
Here's the thing, there isn't even agreement among viewers over Chloe's relationships with Philip, Brady, etc. and who did more wrong to the other so why can't Victor have his own opinion about the matter. You are clearly very protective of Chloe and nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that it is reasonable that Victor would be very protective of his family. As much as some audience members may think that Chloe got mistreated in past relationships, Victor has good reason to see it the opposite. Of course he is going to side with his family, he should and it is in his nature to do everything he does with much passion and gusto.
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Post by shi22 on May 1, 2011 18:35:35 GMT -5
Here's the thing, there isn't even agreement among viewers over Chloe's relationships with Philip, Brady, etc. and who did more wrong to the other so why can't Victor have his own opinion about the matter. You are clearly very protective of Chloe and nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that it is reasonable that Victor would be very protective of his family. As much as some audience members may think that Chloe got mistreated in past relationships, Victor has good reason to see it the opposite. Of course he is going to side with his family, he should and it is in his nature to do everything he does with much passion and gusto. I agree with you to an extent. Victor is very protective of his family so I can somewhat understand his hatred towards Chloe. Kate and Victor are very much alike in that sense. It's never their kids fault, always the other person's. Here's the thing though... if Victor hates Chloe because she hurt his son and grandson, then by that logic, he really shouldn't like Melanie either. Philip outright told Victor that he caught Melanie kissing another man, but Victor still thought she was the best thing that's ever happened to him. If I remember correctly, Victor felt similarly towards Belle as well. If Victor was like this with everyone then it would make more sense, but I feel like he unnecessarily singles Chloe out. |
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Post by Tom Horton on May 1, 2011 20:04:40 GMT -5
I agree that Victor should hate Melanie too... and so should Kate. If TPTB weren't so in love with their insipid little Melanie creation both Victor and Kate would have her at the top of their hitlist. Apparently TPTB think that having characters behave out of character by singing the praises of TPTB's fave characters that the audience will also cut them slack and mindlessly decide to like the characters themselves, but it just makes me hate them even more. However, I don't agree that Chloe is the only one being singled out for Victor's wrath. As I noted above he has never given Nicole or Sami a break either. In my mind that puts Chloe in good company and makes me like her better than I would otherwise.
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Post by fluffysmom on May 1, 2011 21:08:21 GMT -5
I forgot how smitten Phil was over her. At that time I was on team Brady. I had a crush on Kyle/Brady, and loved their interest in music that brought them together. Now seeing Phillip and Chloe from then, I kinda wish she'd stayed with HIM. The plan according to KC was for Chloe and Philip to end up together back then. When Jay gave TPTB his notice they changed their endgame to Brady and Chloe. With PHLOE it is always what might have been! |
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Post by extrememakeover on May 1, 2011 21:25:52 GMT -5
Nadia was already getting ready to leave,and JKJ had alreay decided to leave,so they could have had Phloe leaving together.I don't think Phloe was the plan.
As far as Victior is concerned,sorry,he can dislike her but he should stop acting like his family,especially men, are poor innocent victims of Chloe.they all went after to get into her pants.Did whatever it took to get into her pants,made promises they didn't keep.They all were great in bed and sucked big time out of it.Again ,the only one who didn't desirves what she did to him is Lucas..I am protective of Chloe but I know when she's wrong and right,I know her flaws,weakness,issues,.....And I am sick and tired of Chloe being the punshing bag of the show since her return.Soon they will blame her for earthquakes and tsunamies.
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