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Post by sportsgirl on Aug 13, 2012 10:43:34 GMT -5
You do know it's not about being gay.... Dan Cathy was against gay marriage and believes in the biblical definition and if people use celebrities views on life then I feel sorry for them. I also thought to err is human & forgive is divine. So you believe you make a mistake in life & it should be held against you for life? Melissa also possesses freedom of speech and I am proud she wasn't afraid to use it.
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Post by MrsM on Aug 13, 2012 10:48:24 GMT -5
I try to stay out of this kind of stuff. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and value systems. That being said, don't force your opinion on me. I see this as the opposite side of the No H8 campaign. I support gay marriage and believe you should be able to marry the person that you love. I am a Christian and it isn't my place to judge you for who you love. I have lots of friends and family who don't feel that way and we just agree that we don't agree and leave it at that. They are never going to convince me it is wrong and I am never going to convince them that it is right.
This whole thing is just such a stupid hullabaloo. It is a chicken sandwich. A friend of mine posted this that a friend of his wrote:
This was posted by some I respect and admire and have learned many things from. I completely agree.
With all due respect to both sides of this crap throwing contest over Chick-fil-a. This will either gain me friends cost me friends on both sides of this issue. But, I have never been the kind of person to hold back the truth as I see it. I think this may be the silliest, most self-absorbed thing
I have seen in a long time… read a couple of my recent posts you will understand why I think that is so. So be it. Last week I had my heart torn out and handed to me by someone I truly love anyway so what difference does it make anymore. Some will value and believe what I say, some will believe none of it, what difference does it make.. I’ll continue doing what I do and let the chips fall where they may.
Today I bought a sandwich from Chick-fil-a whose ownership has a stance about marriage. Today I went to home depot and bought a couple of things I needed from a store whose management has an opposing stance on marriage.
And today I put BLOOD on my hands. I went and filled up my truck at a filling station with gasoline that most likely came from Opec. To those of you who are going go boycott Chick-fil-a or do boycott Home Depot congratulations on making life even harder for some young, straight or gay kid trying to make it through school, support a family, or a retiree trying to make ends me like I do every month. THAT is what you are doing. And THAT is what I will not do. I waited in the drive through line 20 minutes at Chick-fil-a. Their business has tripled. Home Depot, well it’s still just a big store. Those things are trivial though to what I did by filling up my truck.
You see, I work in three groups specifically trying to end child slavery, child sexual exploitation and abuse. I have also worked with law enforcement on this issue. I’ve also spoken at the UN twice, and testified before congressional committees. Those of you who live near Highway 90 to sit on the side of the road and look for unmarked 18 wheelers, unmarked moving type vans… guess what might be in them… try to wrap your mind around this… girls and boys who will be sexually used and abused until they are of no use then to use the term of the “industry” snuffed. Remember when we had milk carton kids…. Well, there are now too many to put on milk cartons or anywhere else.
But here is where I put BLOOD on my hands, may God forgive me. Every country in OPEC has the death penalty for homosexuality. Anyone want to guess what the minimum age is generally… 12 in some, 14 in others… Anyone belong to Amnesty International…. Last year in Iran two boys who were probably 15, though the crap put out by the Iranian government said 17 and 18… were hanged by the neck and strangled to death because they were presumed to be gay. In Saudi Arabia who we would not dare aggravate with news, this year boys as young as 14 were beheaded on the presumption of homosexuality. Can you imagine the terror of a child kneeling in a public square waiting for a sword to slash off his head because of something he probably doesn’t understand. And if there is anyone out there who doesn’t understand what would happen to gays, Christians and some other groups worldwide should certain powers take over you arent’t in touch with reality. You would be the first kneeling in the square along with the children.
We are incredibly spoiled in this country. We can say anything, do almost anything, go anywhere, write anything and do things that would get us killed anywhere else. So if you are one who wants to go put some kid out of work because of the companies opinion, or make bloody fool out of yourself with a “kiss in” in front of some corporation outlet… remember that at the same time there is probably some kid dangling from the end of a rope stangling to death, or some kids head laying on the ground, probably still conscious, while we demonstrate or sit at home on our fat butts feeling how honorable and wonderful we are.
While we are doing that I can guarantee you that in some basement of some warehouse in the Houston area, which by the way is a hub for human trafficking, there are some terrified girls and boys huddled together praying for help and asking “where is God” as Weisel did in his magnificent book NIGHT which is something everyone should read… God forgive us, we are such self-important pompous people sometimes… I buried a baby his week whose parents were not there at the funeral, only an Aunt and two funeral directors and me… and a butterfly… God forgive us.
If you want to demonstrate something against actual human torturing, suffering and death… park your *&$# car for a couple of days and buy no gas while children dangle from ropes or have their heads slashed from their bodies because of issues they don’t even comprehend. I live in the real America where speech is free and issues can be discussed by sane people. I’ll be at Chick-fil-a and Home Depot on August 1 and I will not put any gas in my truck on that day thereby sparing my hands of the blood.
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Post by jaysdelina on Aug 13, 2012 10:49:59 GMT -5
She lasted about a year or so.They had to recast Jennifer pretty fast at that point.The lawsuit against Melissa was for breach of contract as she still had a few months left on it.It was settled out of court and the money was donated to pediatric aids research or something like that,which I did think was a great thing for Corday productions to do.
Back to the subject at hand though,Melissa needs to be very careful.Her show for the better part of a year or so has been telling a very compelling coming out story.I'd be surprised if Corday keeps her after this,or at the very least lets her anywhere near that story.One of these days one of her comments is going to come back and bite her in the you know what.
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Post by DancingDays on Aug 13, 2012 10:55:12 GMT -5
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom FROM others' speech. Melissa had every right to say/think what she wants. But that does not preclude others from disagreeing with her publicly or privately. Just because a belief is a religious one also does not shield it from disagreement from others. Some Christians believe some things, some believe others. Other religions believe completely different things. Some people are atheists and don't follow the tenants of any religion, but are still lovely people.
My point is this - one person's religion/belief is not necessarily another person's religion/belief. It would be a much nicer world if we all just stopped judging what other people do in their private lives. Who cares if someone else disagrees with your religion? Does that make your beliefs less valid? If so, that's sad. When someone disagrees with me (and that is their TOTAL AND COMPLETE RIGHT) I shrug it off. But I don't force them to agree with me or punish them till they do.
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Post by jayssweetgirl on Aug 13, 2012 11:08:41 GMT -5
I def believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion and beliefs and even though I don't support gay marriage, I would never judge someone that was gay and wanted to get married. To each their own. It's not my place to judge and I don't like being judged for being a christian, so I'm not gonna judge anyone that isn't a christian or has their own beliefs. Fair is fair I guess.
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Post by DancingDays on Aug 13, 2012 11:14:41 GMT -5
I def believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion and beliefs and even though I don't support gay marriage, I would never judge someone that was gay and wanted to get married. To each their own. It's not my place to judge and I don't like being judged for being a christian, so I'm not gonna judge anyone that isn't a christian or has their own beliefs. Fair is fair I guess. I don't think I understand your post. Is someone here attacking Christianity? I missed that part. Also, you say you don't support gay marriage, but then go on to say you "would never judge someone that was gay and wanted to get married." I'M SERIOUSLY NOT TRYING TO ATTACK YOU. (and I put that in bold letters so it would be seen) I really just don't understand that argument. Please help me understand where you're coming from and what you are trying to say. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Aug 13, 2012 11:21:44 GMT -5
I didn't see anyone put religion into this.Did I miss something?I posted an article where a comment was made that I personally don't agree with.I'm not going to sit in judgement of people who do agree with it,but felt compelled to share my own feelings about it.I feel this thread has gone way off track and I don't know how that happened.My only point especially in the last few posts I made,is that she made mistakes,grave ones,and Melissa should not sit in judgement of others.
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Post by jayssweetgirl on Aug 13, 2012 11:28:09 GMT -5
I def believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion and beliefs and even though I don't support gay marriage, I would never judge someone that was gay and wanted to get married. To each their own. It's not my place to judge and I don't like being judged for being a christian, so I'm not gonna judge anyone that isn't a christian or has their own beliefs. Fair is fair I guess. I don't think I understand your post. Is someone here attacking Christianity? I missed that part. Also, you say you don't support gay marriage, but then go on to say you "would never judge someone that was gay and wanted to get married." I'M SERIOUSLY NOT TRYING TO ATTACK YOU. (and I put that in bold letters so it would be seen) I really just don't understand that argument. Please help me understand where you're coming from and what you are trying to say. I don't support gay marriage, but I am not gonna sit there and tell someone that what they are doing is wrong. That would be pushing my beliefs off on someone else and bc I don't like it when people do it to me, I'm not gonna do it to someone else. I know alot of people that don't support gay marriage, but they don't go around saying it. No one in my family supports gay marriage, but none of us go around telling people that are gay that being gay is wrong. |
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Post by jayssweetgirl on Aug 13, 2012 11:38:03 GMT -5
I am going to say my peace and try very hard to explain my side and then I don't want to talk about it again. My whole philpsophy is "Love the sinner and hate the sin". My best friend in high school was gay and after high school when he came out of the closet, his parents and siblings dis owned him and to this day, still won't have anything to do with him. I told him that I don't agree with him being gay, but it doesn't mean that I'm gonna dis own him at all. I don't judge other people and if he wants to be gay, then that is his business and not mine. Just like I don't understand why he is gay, he doesn't understand why I am straight. Just because I don't agree with someone being gay, doesn't mean that I am being judgemental because I am not. I may not agree with it, but I am not gonna judge someone just because they are different or they don't believe what I believe. Different opinions is what makes the world go round and I am glad that everyone is different and has different beliefs and opinions. The only reason I said anything about religion is bc Chick Fil A is a christian based restaurant and that is why they had that big ordeal about gay marriage. I still believe to each their own just because I don't agree with it, doesn't mean I am being judgemental or anything.
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Post by sportsgirl on Aug 13, 2012 11:48:30 GMT -5
I understand what you mean. Our world is full of different beliefs & views. Sometimes it creates that atmosphere of hate. It's a shame more people can't just shrug off those differences. I don't want this people in this country to become afraid to speak their minds, afraid that they will come under attack.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 11:54:12 GMT -5
I am going to say my peace and try very hard to explain my side and then I don't want to talk about it again. My whole philpsophy is "Love the sinner and hate the sin". My best friend in high school was gay and after high school when he came out of the closet, his parents and siblings dis owned him and to this day, still won't have anything to do with him. I told him that I don't agree with him being gay, but it doesn't mean that I'm gonna dis own him at all. I don't judge other people and if he wants to be gay, then that is his business and not mine. Just like I don't understand why he is gay, he doesn't understand why I am straight. Just because I don't agree with someone being gay, doesn't mean that I am being judgemental because I am not. I may not agree with it, but I am not gonna judge someone just because they are different or they don't believe what I believe. Different opinions is what makes the world go round and I am glad that everyone is different and has different beliefs and opinions. The only reason I said anything about religion is bc Chick Fil A is a christian based restaurant and that is why they had that big ordeal about gay marriage. I still believe to each their own just because I don't agree with it, doesn't mean I am being judgemental or anything. I definitely agree with you 100%!!!!! Everyone is going to live their life the way they want to and no one else has the right to judge them. I don't agree with it either, but that doesn't mean that I am going to go around preaching to everyone that is gay telling them that what they are doing is wrong. I wouldn't want someone telling me that being straight is wrong, so in turn, I'm not gonna tell someone that is gay that being gay is wrong. The subject "gay" is so taboo just like poilitics and religion. |
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Post by DancingDays on Aug 13, 2012 11:54:35 GMT -5
This is a touchy issue for MANY people, so I, too, will say my piece and leave it at that. I do not believe one's sexuality is a choice. I grew up attracted to boys, but I know plenty of boys who realized at a very young age that they, too, liked boys. I feel sad for my gay friends that can't get married in my state and I want to do everything in my power to help them achieve their desire to have a wonderful loving marriage. By a blessing of fate, I am considered the "right" kind of person. I am straight. BUT, I do not consider myself any "righter" than anyone else. We're all here on this earth to live and love and we ALL deserve the chance to do just that.
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Post by jaysdelina on Aug 13, 2012 12:03:54 GMT -5
I would never normally bring this up.Being behind a computer screen,I am viewed as everyone else,but the truth is I'm not.I am disabled,paralyzed from the waist down,confined to a wheelchair.I have been my whole life.This was not a choice I made for my life,but the hand I was dealt to play.I cannot and WILL NOT say that I understand what it's like to be gay,as I don't.BUT I will say that I probably can come pretty close to understanding.Just as someone who is gay is different,so am I.I face snide remarks every day.Rude comments,nasty looks,and, as Queen Latifa once said,"A whole lot of ugly coming from a never ending supply of stupid".Most will always judge what they do not understand.Please note I said MOST,as I do not believe anyone's doing that here.My point in bringing it up is that everyone is different in their own way.Some of us make choices for our lives,some of us don't.We have to play the hand we're dealt from birth onward.I have respected,and DO respect everyone's opinion here,whether I agree or not.And I hope I have not offended anyone with any of my comments or made anyone feel like their opinions didn't matter,as that was NEVER my intention at all.
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Post by sportsgirl on Aug 13, 2012 12:15:08 GMT -5
Totally understand Delina! I was bigoted myself most of my childhood and some of my adult life. I know the feeling and have been dealt the hate. I do not discriminate & I truly get angry when people accuse me of it.
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Post by sportsgirl on Aug 16, 2012 12:02:58 GMT -5
saw this today: Due to all of the inappropriate comments and threats to me and my family, I regret to say that I will be shutting down this Twitter account. I don’t feel that it is God-honoring to spend this much time fighting over things that we disagree on. The internet can be a great thing, but it can also be very destructive in the sense that you cannot truly learn the heart of a person in just a few words. I appreciate and love you all and thank you for your support over the years and will be praying for you. “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.” Mark 12:30 www.twitlonger.com/show/isg2c0I agree that no one can truly know anyone from just the internet. Very sad it came down to threats to her & her family. |
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