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Post by Trey on Mar 17, 2011 19:36:43 GMT -5
I'm okay with Daniel/Chloe's divorce.
But the old school Jack/Jennifer fan side of me was actually a bit sad watching Jennifer and Abby speak (even though I know it had to be done for Jennifer to move on).
Bittersweet.
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Post by MrsM on Mar 17, 2011 19:38:10 GMT -5
Yup. Same here.
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 17, 2011 19:39:25 GMT -5
It kind of upset me too to hear the way they were talking about him.But this is par for the course with Jack and Jenn since 2001.It's been pretty on again-off again thing.I get that she has to move on,BUT I'm not fond of the way they're doing it.
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 17, 2011 20:04:35 GMT -5
Bittersweet to me too. I was surprised to see how much emotion Kate ("Abby") showed. Well done.
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Post by Kpatch on Mar 17, 2011 20:25:49 GMT -5
I wonder if we are going to get a scene of each of the soon-to-be divorcees taking off their ring. I liked that they showed Daniel doing it.
Jack and Jennifer are one of my top three all time favorite couples, so I am not accepting that this is a forever breakup.
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 17, 2011 20:39:24 GMT -5
It usually never is jkjpatch,lol.I bet the only reason we don't have Matt back right now is because he currently has another project going.
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Post by melly on Mar 17, 2011 21:42:50 GMT -5
Admittedly, we don't know what went on between Jack and Jenn before she returned and he went on his walkabout/ashram visit/finding himself adventure....BUT. One of the things that bothers me about this whole thing is that Jenn, who I've always seen as a very emotional and sentimental and nostalgic person, doesn't seem to be all that torn up about the divorce. Yes, she may see it as necessary, and yes, she may be frustrated w/ Jack...but the writers don't appear to be showing any real regret or longing for things to be different or attachment to fond memories. I admit to being invested in this SL for a number of reasons, though, so I may not be viewing this very objectively. Thoughts?
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 18, 2011 8:42:08 GMT -5
^^^I understand what you mean. She does seem rather eager to move on. As much as I love Jack, I have to let him go too, since the writers are not going to honor that character at all. He might as well be dead, which is a shame. In a wierd way though, knowing that Matt Ashford is doing plays and is still working kinda makes it ok. It's a strange blurring of reality and fantasy, but if Matt's ok - Jack's ok. I know that makes me sound completely crazy, but there ya go.
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Post by mae00 on Mar 18, 2011 8:58:33 GMT -5
While I understand how all of you are feeling since you have a lot more of the back history of Jack & Jennifer than I do (I have some from the last time they were on the show together) but I'm not really having a problem with the emotion that Jennifer is showing. I guess being in a situation where you feel like you are already alone anyway I can relate.
Here's what I mean - Jack up and left Jennifer and the kids. The only contact he has really had with any of them has been through his blog and even then it's been onesided contact for Jennifer. Granted, he's talked to the kids over the phone (or at least that's what I've understood), but not Jennifer. Jennifer has had some time to pull herself out of the marriage emotionally. She still went through a wide range of emotions, from being hurt (seen when she came back to Salem), to noncomplacent (not really caring where Jack was), being worried (when no one had heard from him and he hadn't updated his blog), to being angry (when he hadn't contacted the kids and she left him the message). She has wanted to Jack to care about her and kept hoping that she would catch some glimpse, some little piece of something to help her hang on to wanting to save her marriage. Then she had her heart surgery and noone could talk to Jack directly and even if he got the messages (which we have to assume he did because he had gotten others from his family) he didn't show one ounce of compassion or worry over Jennifer's well-being or how thier kids where handling what was going on with their mom. His lack of attentiveness to others needs (especially those of his family) said a lot to Jennifer and she realized that it's always gonna be about him and what he wants.
Jennifer has already seen for herself that there are others out there that would treat her the way she should be and deserves to be treated (Ben Walters - even tho he was a dirt bag). Jack hasn't given her that in a long time and what's the point of staying in a marriage where the feelings are onesided??
Sorry for the rant. I guess being in a relationship right now where the other half is absorbed in what he wants to do with no regard to his family just makes Jennifer's position hit a little close to home for me so I'm a little biased on this end of it.
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 18, 2011 9:18:14 GMT -5
I totally get what you're saying.From my perspective though,it's hard for me to see this,just based on what we saw back in June when she came back for Alice's funeral.She talked about how she and Jack were still so in love,how things were going so well,and how he "makes her laugh everyday".So now,months later,she comes back,and excuse the way I'm gonna say this but,things have gone down the proverbial toilet,we're left to wonder,"What the hell happend in the space of three or four months?!".It just seemed to come out of left field.BUT with that being said,they can't very well bring Jack back right now as Matt has been busy with other projects.Maybe somewhere down the line....
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Post by DancingDays on Mar 18, 2011 9:20:20 GMT -5
Mae - I'm so sorry for what you are going through. Everything you said make complete sense, and if I was going by only what's happening right now, I would feel the same way about Jack. They are painting him as a complete a$$. However, I have been invested in them for almost 20 years (geez, has it been that long??) and the Jack of before would NEVER be this much of a jerk. I guess the rest of us are all hoping that he's actually been taken prisoner somewhere and the messages he's sending back aren't really from him. My inner fanfic writer has created a story (which I will never write or, much less, publish/post) that Jack is being held captive and his captors are writting this blog for him. I have no idea why he's a prisoner, but he just is. Then when he finally manages to escape, he goes back home to London, only to discover that Jenn and Abby have high tailed it to Salem. Once he gets there, he finds out that Jenn has divorced him and she's now in love *shiver* with Dr. Dan. That creates a triangle and the battle for Jenn begins. At least that's how I see it. MY Jack would never abandon his family like that. He fought too hard to win Jenn in the first place, that I can't see him suddenly going off the rails like this just because of a mid-life crisis. Mae-I sincerely hope that things start looking up for you soon.  |
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 18, 2011 9:25:04 GMT -5
While I understand what Mae is saying,I agree with you DD.I'm still holding out hope Jack isn't able to write the blog so someone's doing it for him.As you say,maybe he was taken prisoner.OUR Jack wouldn't have done something like this.Yeah he's walked away before,but it's always been "for Jenn's protection/own good",thinking that he's doing RIGHT by his family.This midlife thing just seems odd to me.
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Post by Trey on Mar 18, 2011 10:52:57 GMT -5
@mae-I totally get what you're saying. I think since Jenn has been back, we've seen her obsess over Jack on the computer (okay, not obsess in a crazy way, but she did talk a lot about him, his journey, her understood anger, and her frustration). You know she was searching his blogs for some clue as to what was going on with him and their marriage. @jaysdelina-when she came back to Salem for good, she also pretended she and Jack were great/wonderful. Bo basically had to tell her to cut the bull, and then she confessed that she and Jack weren't good and they haven't been for some time. DancingDays-I have to disagree about Jack abandoning Jennifer. He has pushed her away before and yes, did fight like heck to get her back, but then pushed her away again (dumb reasons like he thought he was dying and wanted her with Frankie). Jack has a history of bailing on Jennifer when the going gets tough. So, this walkabout is believable and is so Jack. I think they've done a good job with Jennifer addressing her marriage and frustrations with Jack. I find it hard to believe that she wouldn't read the writing on the wall in that he wasn't there for her for two great traumas 1.) when Alice died AND 2.) her heart surgery. I'd leave his butt, too. I love Jack and Jenn, but between the two, I'm rooting for Jennifer to move on. |
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Post by jaysdelina on Mar 18, 2011 10:58:45 GMT -5
@treydawgg:No I know she did,I saw her convo with Bo.I just meant when she came back for Alice's funeral.I didn't get the impression at all that something was wrong.Usually you can tell with Jenn when she's slingin' bull and when she's bein' straight up.This time was definite bull,lol.
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Post by Trey on Mar 18, 2011 10:59:52 GMT -5
LOL I get what you're saying. I'm just thinking that she was putting on a brave face at the funeral b/c it wasn't the time/place to address her marriage problems with Jack.
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