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Post by heroicmuse on Jan 22, 2021 16:03:18 GMT -5
Gwen's Room After a replay, Gwen gets emotional. She insists that Jack is her father, while he insists he is not. She says really, so you don't know the name Tiffany Riezchek?
Jack says he doesn't. Gwen says he's lying. Jen asks if she has proof. Gwen says her mother cursed Jack out every day. Jack says he has no idea who this woman is and that if he did have a baby with her she never told him. Gwen says she did and she remembers it.
According to Gwen, when she was a small child her mother was about to get evicted out of their crappy flat. She went to Salem and left Gwen in a cockroach-infested motel while she begged Jack to help them, then came back and said Jack said he didn't want anything to do with her because he had a wife and daughter and didn't need another. Jack denies any such meeting ever took place. Gwen says then why did you send my mother hush money every month til she died and then stop it even though I still needed help? Jack denies this too. Gwen insists it happened.
Jen asks how Jack and Tiffany supposedly met. Gwen says Jack was living in Chicago and her mom was a cocktail waitress. Jack left a nice tip. Jen says Jack did live in Chicago before he met her. Jack says this was 30 years ago and he doesn't remember if he ever had a one-night stand with a cocktail waitress. Gwen says that's because he just uses women. She goes on a rant about how Jack always abandoned his family and how he abandoned her mom too, and how can Jen say he's a good guy who wouldn't do that when he raped Kayla?
Jack interrupts that if a woman told him he had a child he'd remember it. Gwen insists her mother did tell him and he rejected her. Jack asks how did she end up with a British accent if she is from Chicago? Gwen says her mother used the meager hush money he sent to move to England with her and then used it to kill herself using drugs. Then Gwen became a ward of the state. When Jack moved to England she saw his byline and thought he was there for her but was crushed that he never looked her up.
Jack tells her he's sorry about her mother but he is not her father. Gwen insists he is lying and that he just likes Abigail better and that's why he rejected her. She bets he won't take a paternity test but she wouldn't believe the results anyway so don't bother. Jack says well since I have no way to prove you're wrong, what do you want? Money? Gwen is offended that he thinks he can throw money at her like he did at her mother. She's not going away. She's staying in Salem and she's going to get revenge on him and his family. She wants him and Jen to leave.
In the hall, Jack asks Jen if she believes him. She does. She's worried about Abigail. She's so fragile because of Chad's cheating on her with Gwen and now this.
Later, at the Horton House, Abby asks Jack if Gwen is really his daughter. He says most of her story is lies, but he doesn't know for sure that he's not her father.
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Post by wendylou on Jan 22, 2021 16:20:59 GMT -5
Oh, wouldn’t it be nice if this girl turned out to be mistaken? Or that her mother lied to her, or something? I would prefer that anyway. I don’t want her to stick around or be part of of the Devereaux family.
I was honestly thinking maybe Jack could have been her father and not known but I don’t see how he could be forgetting sending a woman checks etc.
I forget so many things about this show. Has Jack had amnesia other then when he was with Eve?
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Post by sportsgirl on Jan 22, 2021 18:01:49 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing.. how could he forget if he sent checks every month?
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Post by tghca on Jan 22, 2021 19:21:46 GMT -5
Unless it was Gwen's mother Tiffany who decided to keep them apart and she filled Gwen's head with lies about Jack
Either way Gwen is a Johnson now which means she's Steve's niece and she is Sonny, Joseph, Victor II, Stephanie, Tripp and Joey's cousin
That means Gwen is related to Adrienne too
Yeah she's sticking around whether we want her to or not
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Post by Kpatch on Jan 22, 2021 21:12:06 GMT -5
I hate this. I have said many times before how much I hate pop-up children.
Plus this does not ring true for Jack. I am thinking (hoping) that someone used Jack's name, maybe Harper Deveraux or someone who had a grudge against Jack. She should be arrested for drugging Abby and I'm sure they can come up with some other charges against her. Putting Jack in this position is not enjoyable to watch.
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Post by Trey on Jan 22, 2021 21:36:06 GMT -5
I really hope someone does a DNA test soon (perhaps in Chicago). I’d love for Gwen to be wrong. Wouldn’t that be funny!!!
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Post by kathyj on Jan 22, 2021 21:40:13 GMT -5
Speculation — I wonder if Jack’s adoptive father, name escapes me, had a hand in paying Gwen’s mother. I hope they can track down the secretary who sent the payments.
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Post by Kpatch on Jan 22, 2021 21:47:44 GMT -5
Speculation — I wonder if Jack’s adoptive father, name escapes me, had a hand in paying Gwen’s mother. I hope they can track down the secretary who sent the payments. Harper Deveraux. That was my speculation as well.
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Post by sportsgirl on Jan 23, 2021 12:25:16 GMT -5
Did we know much about Jack before he came to Salem? I do know at one time he wasn't the nicest guy when he raped Kayla, but even then my memory is foggy.
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Post by tghca on Jan 23, 2021 12:42:45 GMT -5
If Gwen wants someone to blame for her life then she can blame herself...or better yet she can place her blame on her adopted grandfather Harper because he is probably the one who paid off Tiffany instead of Jack
Only way Gwen's story will hold any weight is a DNA test
If I'm Jack I insist on a DNA test because until then, I'm not claiming her as my daughter
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Post by Kpatch on Jan 23, 2021 14:58:04 GMT -5
I think whatever tale Gwen's mother told her was a complete lie. At least that is what I'm hoping because I don't want her to have a connection to anyone in Salem.
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Post by wendylou on Jan 23, 2021 16:17:24 GMT -5
If the writers wanted to write something that was actually kind of a twist then she would end up NOT being his child. Pop up children are nothing surprising on this show and I think a lot of people figured that out. It would be different if it turned out that she thought she was Jack's daughter but she was really just mistaken and had been lied to her whole life.
I think Jack & Jen should start by doing a background check on her mother to see if she looked familiar or might have been someone Jack knew. As everyone's said, DNA tests in Salem are anything but reliable.
Was Harper Jack's adopted father or bio? Maybe Harper is her father. If he's Jack's bio dad then that could cause confusion on a DNA test as we just saw with Tripp and Charlie.
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Post by sportsgirl on Jan 23, 2021 16:41:26 GMT -5
Harper was his adopted father. His real father was Duke Johnson, also father to Steve & Adrienne.
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Post by tghca on Jan 23, 2021 18:04:52 GMT -5
Now Harper being Gwen's father now that I could buy
But either way Gwen is scum
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Post by Kpatch on Jan 23, 2021 19:06:35 GMT -5
Was Harper Jack's adopted father or bio? Maybe Harper is her father. If he's Jack's bio dad then that could cause confusion on a DNA test as we just saw with Tripp and Charlie. I thought that for a second too. Harper would not be above using Jack or trying to discredit him. Of course he's long dead now. Either way, as sportsgirl pointed out, Harper was Jack's adoptive father so they would not share DNA.
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