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[Tom Horton]

Welcome Phloefansince 2000.

Aug 9, 2011 17:21:55 GMT -5 karebr13 said:

There was no reason why Carly even needed to pull Jason into this thing with Josslyn.

I'm caught up and can now comment on this. I like what Sam said to Carly about how she just used Josslyn as an excuse to show that Jason would still come running. It's true, because as soon as Jason was hospitalized and near death thanks to Carly's drama, she was turning to Olivia. How stupid is that - if Olivia could handle the situation by herself then why couldn't Carly, except for exactly what Sam said. Carly knew she could handle the situation on her own and just came to Jason to prove her stake on him to Sam. I hated that "bonding" junk between Carly and Olivia. Carly doesn't deserve to have any friends or any empathy from Olivia. I couldn't believe Olivia saying that crap about how she understood Carly's feelings about Dante. They better not make Olivia friends with Carly or they will ruin Olivia for me.

I do, however, love the friendship between Diane and Alexis and Lulu and Maxie. The scenes with Diane, Alexis and Coleman were loads of fun to watch.

Kudos to Dante today - I hope he sticks to his guns and follows through with pressing charges against Sonny for assualting him.... and if Olivia gives him any lip about how he should be nice to his father, that will be strike two against her. I'm sick of everyone covering for Sonny and making excuses for him. That's why GH needs Jax so bad. He is the only one who stands up to Sonny. .... And that brings me to Robin. She better cut Sonny out of her life for good after today. I don't care about what happened when she was a teenager. She's an adult now and a mother and the man shot her in front of her daughter! That's not how "friends" treat each other ... and does that fact really need to be pointed out, I mean geez woman grow a backbone.

[karebr13]

I liked it too when Sam was blaming Carly for what happened to Jason especially since if Carly didn't go running to Jason in the first place he would have never been in the accident. It would be nice if Carly actually learned to handle things on her own instead of always running to Jason or Sonny to help her out.

I have always enjoyed Diane and Alexis' friendship. It is really nice to see two females who can talk about their personal lives together and just hang out and have fun. The scene where Alexis beat Coleman at pool and had him strip down was all kinds of fun. I would love to see more scenes like this between these three again.

I wonder why GH decided to get rid of Jax. He is so needed as an enemy of Sonny. I love it that Jax is not afraid of Sonny and will never back down from him even if his life is in danger.

I hope that on today's show that Sonny actually stays arrested and Dante doesn't let him go just because he is his father. It is about time that Sonny has to pay for some of his crimes against Dante. I hated when Sonny shot Dante and Dante let him off the hook because he was his father. Sonny should definitely be punished for assaulting a police officer even if the officer is his son. I am really starting to like Dante a lot after today. It seems like he really wants to stop Sonny from killing Jax and spending the rest of his life in prison.

I liked that Patrick stood up to Sonny after Sonny shot Robin and told him to get out of their house. I can't believe Sonny was willing to shoot Jax in a house with a little girl in it. I hated that Emma had to see her mom shot and I hope that Robin realizes that what Sonny did could tramatize Emma for the rest of her life. I also hope that Robin kicks Sonny out of her life for good since Sonny refuses to let anyone help him and all he cares about is getting revenge on Jax for Brenda leaving him. It is about time that Robin puts aside all the stuff that Sonny did for her and Stone when they were teenagers and start thinking about the welfare of her family before it ends up costing her her marriage to Patrick and her daughter.

As much as I enjoy watching Jackal PI, I really hope that Spinelli gets his memory back real soon.

[Tom Horton]

I agree. I'm not usually a big Patrick fan but I loved him on yesterday's show and agree that Robin needs to let go of the past (and esp. Sonny) so that she can hold onto the wonderful family she has now. I know Patrick can be a jerk sometimes but Robin can be a pain too - they are well matched.

I want Spinelli back too (though I am loving Maxie being jealous) and I hope he comes back a stronger version of himself. What I want to see from this storyline is a lot more appreciation for Spinelli from everyone. Spinelli does a lot of good for everyone and tends to get looked down on and taken for granted by them. It will be interesting to see what Jason and Spinelli's relationship develops into after Jason's "transformation". I like their quirky friendship as well and would hate to see that disappear altogether. Spinelli is one of the only people that Jason has a mutually beneficial type of friendship with - Sonny and Carly just take and take and take but Spinelli tries to return the support he gets from Jason as much as he can.

[karebr13]

Jason and Spinelli's relationship is one of the best things on the show. I love the way that Spinelli is always willing to help Jason out without expecting anything in return and I love the way that Jason is so protective of Spinelli. They truly have one of the most interesting and best friendships on the show.

Finally got a chance to get caught up on all things General Hospital after being so very busy this past week.

I am a little bit confused about what is going on with Jax and his plane crash. So from what I am understanding from Tuesday and Wednesday's shows is that Sonny threatened to kill Jax to his face and somehow at the end of Tuesday's episode when Jax was about to take off in his plane he was not allowed to leave the runway. Here is what is confusing me did Jax take off even though he wasn't supposed to and then his plane ended up crashing and he is presumed dead. I guess what I am really trying to figure out is if Sonny sabotaged Jax's plane to crash or not. Also I am trying to figure out if Jax is really alive or if it was Sonny's imagination that Jax was taunting him about Brenda dying. I hope things become more clearer on today's show about Jax's disappearance.

I really am glad that Carly slapped Sonny at the end of yesterday's show. I really hope that she breaks all ties with him over what happened to Jax. She needs to get Sonny out of her life once and for all since what Sonny did to Jax was out of pure revenge for Jax taking Brenda away from him.

I am glad that Carly stepped back yesterday when it came to Sam and Jason. It was real nice to see her leave the hospital and let Sam deal with what was going on with Jason without her interference. I am hoping that we are about to see a real transformation with Carly because after what I saw yesterday with Carly I really liked it alot.

I am really becoming intrigued about Skye's return to Port Charles and wondering what her real motives are for coming back and working with Anthony to gain control of ELQ.

I really liked the Michael and Abby stuff the other day and for the first time I am actually liking their relationship and can't wait to see what happens next with them and whether Michael is going to stay at ELQ or walk away to be there for Sonny.

[Tom Horton]

This is what I know of the Jax/Sonny storyline so far: Sonny did in fact sabotage Jax's plane and ordered Max to capture Jax, but when Max got to where Jax's plane was at there were too many cops around (that persumably Dante arranged) for him to get to Jax. There was a scene with Jax trying to start the plane and realizing that a bunch of wires had been pulled out from beneath the steering wheel ... and a scene of Max explaining to Sonny why he couldn't capture Jax. The next piece of information is that Dante informed Sonny that Jax's plane took off but crashed soon after take off. And then the scene of Jax talking to Sonny in his cell telling him that Brenda was dead, but that was only a dream that Sonny was shown waking up from them.... and then came the last scene on yesterday's episode of Carly overhearing Dante tell Sonny that he was being charged with Jax's murder and Carly hitting Sonny (which I did love by the way).

This part is my only my speculation on the Sonny/Jax stuff. When Dante first told Sonny that Jax got away I thought he might have been lying to him and that the police had taken Jax into custody instead. But I don't think Dante would carry a bluff to the point that he would be charging Sonny with murder knowing full well that Jax was fine. So now, I think that Dante really believes that Jax is dead and that Sonny is responsible. I suspect that Sonny didn't know what he was doing when he pulled those wires out and that Jax was able to fix the plane and take off. I think Jax knew immediately who sabotaged his plane and what Sonny's plan was and may have decided to turn the tables by parachuting out of the plane before it crashed so that Sonny would be blamed for his "death".

I'm glad that Carly hit Sonny, but I'm still furious at her and not anywhere close to forgiving her yet or seeing a change in her. I hope they will do something with the character and maybe they will, but right now I just want a whole lot less airtime for her.

I want to know what's going on with Skye too... but mainly I want to know why Anthony is suddenly targeting Tracy instead of Sonny!

And why oh why did Siobhan survive - dang that Ethan! If he would just mind his own business sometimes that Zacchara thug could have spared us all from that voice once and for all!

[Tom Horton]

A co-worker friend just sent me a Thought for the Day that reminded me of Siobhan:

Some people are like slinkies - Not really good for anything but they
bring a smile to to your face when they're pushed down the stairs.

;D

[Tom Horton]

Okay, so after Thursday's episode, I have to say that Carly did make up a few points with me when she was going off on Sonny.

And Ethan lost another point because once again he had to interrupt Anthony's hitman from killing Siobhan. I guess they are setting the stage for an Ethan/Siobhan pairing - I wish they were setting the stage for a Siobhan exit.

[karebr13]

Thanks Kazz for clearing up the Jax/Sonny stuff for me. Somehow I must have missed some of that stuff. I think I am going to have to go back and rewatch monday, tuesday and wednesday's jax/sonny scenes.

I don't think that Jax is really dead either. He knows all too well what Sonny is capable of doing and I'm sure he was one step ahead of Sonny and is somehow faking his death just so that Sonny will be blamed for his death and be punished for it in some form whether it is him going to prison or having everyone that Sonny cares about turn away from him and push him out of their lives for good. Jax is way too smart to not be able to figure out that Sonny would try to kill him after trying to kidnap Josslyn. I have a feeling that we will see Jax back on the show sometime next year.

Like you Kazz, I really want Siobhan to die and be taken off the show already. Her voice grates on my last nerve when I have to listen to her talk. It was so nice the last few days when she was in the coma and we didn't have to hear her. She should have been gone right after the Ireland stuff. I don't want to see Ethan be stuck with her since I like Ethan alot and hate Siobhan. I thought the writers were trying to set up for Kristina and Ethan to be together but it looks like that may be dropped.

I really hope that Carly finally puts her kids safety first and stays away from Sonny for good since she has every right in the world to despise Sonny after what he did to Jax and Josslyn. I just love the way that Sonny talks about how important it is for him to be a good father to his kids and then he goes out and tries to kill Jax so that Josslyn can grow up without her real father in her life. He is the most hypocritical character on the show and I wish that he would disappear for awhile.

I am still very curious as to what is going on with Tracy and Skye and Anthony.

I like that it is starting to look like there will be a Liz/Lucky reunion soon with Liz helping Lucky with the drug case. I can't wait for Liz to steal Lucky from Siobhan.

[Tom Horton]

I hope Carly will get it right this time too, but I'm still holding a bit of a grudge because everything she was saying to Sonny yesterday is EXACTLY what Jax was telling her all alone. If she would have stopped being such a stubborn brat for 2 seconds and admitted it back then, all of this could have been avoided. I can't wait for Jax to return to GH and I hope you are right that it will be soon.

Maybe Siobhan will end up being a sidenote to Ethan and Kristina's story so that she doesn't ruin Ethan and so the audience can be free of her voice (I find it extremely grating as well). And I'm very much looking forward to seeing the Liz/Lucky story unfold.

[Sparkster]

I've enjoyed your comments and have been meaning to add some of my own to the thread.

I've only watched GH for the past 3 years and very intermittently at that. I watch Days everyday but GH is only a couple times a week, sometimes more, sometimes less so I guess I'm not as invested in it as you are.

I totally agree with both of you re: Sonny. This character is getting tiresome. In many ways he reminds me of EJ. Constantly getting away with breaking the law, plays the poor me card, always having some hapless woman fall for his crap and the cycle begins again. There have been times I've enjoyed him and I think MB is a good actor but it just seems like the same thing over and over with Sonny. And yeah, sure, Carly is really ticked off at him right now saying he'll never see his kids again, I'm sure that will change tomorrow after Sonny says he's sorry and this time he really, really means it!

And seriously, Robin, get a clue about Sonny!! In today's episode she was basically defending him and his actions when Jason asked what happened to her arm. Oh, no big deal, Sonny just shot up the place going after Jax, and sure I could have gotten killed or worse yet, my daughter could have been, but it's fine, and most likely my fault that Sonny acted the way he did.

Can't stand Siobhan either.

Jax is alive!

Do you guys read GH spoilers? I don't want to spoil anything if you don't so I won't discuss them here unless you comment about them.

[karebr13]

Sparkster

I check out spoilers for GH occasionally when I am dieing to know what is going to happen in a certain storyline. General Hospital is one of those soaps where I don't need to go and read spoilers just to figure out what is going on with the show unlike Days. I don't mind if you want to spoil something since there are a couple of storylines that I was actually about to go on the daytime royalty website to read spoilers about because I can't wait until Monday to know what is going to happen.

OMG I couldn't believe the end of today's show where Skye found Jax unconscious. I really hope that he is alive. What a way to end the show. I don't know why but somehow I get this feeling that Anthony is responsible for what happened to Jax just so that he can get Sonny out of the way by sending him to prison.

I'm glad that you don't like Sonny too. It is always nice when others hate the same characters that I do. I do however think that Maurice Bernard is a pretty good actor when given the right material. I just don't like to watch him in emotional scenes because I feel like he is a little over the top in them.

I hated the way that Robin was acting today too. I can't believe that after her daughter witnessed her mommy being shot that Robin would have the audacity to defend Sonny's actions like he did nothing wrong. I wonder what she would have done if somehow Emma happened to step in front of the gun and ended up taking a bullet. I hope she wakes up and realizes that this whole Sonny thing could have had a very traumatic effect on her daughter.

I will never understand why everybody on the show seems to blame themselves for Sonny's actions except for Jax. It is about time they realize that Sonny is the way he is because they all enable him to be that way. If they would only stop trying to put the blame on themselves and on Sonny where it belongs then maybe Sonny will finally realize that he needs to change the way he lives his life before someone he really cares about gets hurt or even killed.

Man I really hope that Anthony kills Siobhan on Monday but I know that will probably never happen since I want it so very badly. I am really interested however in finding out exactly what she knows about Anthony that he wants her dead so badly.

Even though the Dante and Lulu scenes were nothing more than filler stuff today, they were very sweet. I liked that Dante remembered her birthday even though no one else but Spinelli did. I however think that things are moving a little bit too fast with them having her move in with him. I wonder if something is being set up for something to happen to one of them in September during Jason and Sam's wedding.

I am really interested to see what is going to be done with Jason with his whole medical condition. I know that there is going to be some big transformation with him but I wonder if it is only going to be temporary or permament. I like Jason the way he is but I also want to see him embrace some of his Quartermaine roots again.

I am so glad that the whole Liz/Lucky stuff is finally moving along. It is about time that these two get back together for good. It was also nice to see Matt be involved with Lucky today in this whole drug thing. I hope that this is going to be the start of seeing Matt more on the show since I really like Jason Cook.

[Tom Horton]

Yay! Sparky joined in! @sparky, I never read spoilers for GH but it's just because I don't visit the sites that offer them. Please share any GH spoilers you like in this thread.

Matt gets on my nerves. I don't dislike him exactly; he's just flat to me ... and I've never been much of a Jason Cook fan so that doesn't help. Still, it's nice to see a mixture of characters being used and interacting with each other.

The one compliment I can offer to Sonny is to say that I much prefer him to EJ ... but knowing my feelings on EJ as I'm sure you both do, that isn't much of a compliment. Ordinarily Sonny doesn't bother me too much. I think he's hypocritical and sexist but he's the villain of the show so I don't expect to like him, just be able to tolerate scenes with him and prior to his involvment in the custody battle I could. Having him go after Jax was definitely the way to make me lose all respect for him. Sonny's actions in this story line are completely selfish and motivated by nothing but vengenance. In other storylines (at least in the time I've been watching) he has generally had a somewhat understandable rationale for his actions but not now. At the root of Sonny's hate for Jax is exactly what Karebr pointed out - Jax is the only one in town who calls Sonny out on who and what he is. If you're getting away with murder (literally) on a daily basis and still manage to have tons of people who care about you and say nice things to you, then be a man and accept that the one drawback in your otherwise completely charmed life is that one man calls you the criminal that you are..... but noooooo Sonny just has be a giant baby about it and whine and cry and point fingers at Jax as the big meany instead of having the balls to admit that he is the one who drove his wife away and caused every other problem in his life. I think that is what grates on me even more than the actual criminal acts (cause like I said he is a villain, he's supposed do that) ...... and the thing that Karebr said about everyone in Port Charles enabling him. That is what gets under my skin the worst and makes me find Sonny so intolerable right now..... along with a few others like stupid Robin. I haven't seen today's episode yet but I'm already mad at her hearing that she defends Sonny once again. She is so going to get divorced and I'm going to be on Patrick's side for once.

Good point that maybe Anthony is the one behind what happened to Jax.... I've been wondering what is taking Anthony so long to go after Sonny directly (well mostly directly, sorry Jax). I could see that and it would make for an interesting storyline.

Having never known another Jason, I wouldn't want to see a huge personality change because that's the character I've come to know and like ..... but what he does for a living and who he associates with are not parts of his core personality. They are choices that he could change and still be the same person that I already know. I would like to see him reconnect with his real family, find a legitimate line of work, and most ofall, stop letting Sonny and Carly constantly use him. He deserves a life of his own and those two could both use a good strong dose of reality that they are not the center of the universe nor Jason's existence.

ETA: I want to give kudos to Garin Wolf. I like his writing style a lot. First, because he's gutsy. He immediately started making significant changes to the show: writing Sonny as total villain and taking away all the excuses/sympathies that Guza always included for him; undoing the change that turned the Quartermaine heir into a mob hitman; and shifting focus from "misunderstood criminals" to families, friends and (gasp) romance.

Second, because Garin Wolf has already accomplished something that Higley failed at for years - the concept that Corday et al have repeatedly mentioned about moving the show along faster. Higley's approach to that was to write events and shock and awe moments, fast pace relationships and cut out nearly everything that gave the audience any insight into who a character is or what their motivation is for their decisions and actions. Garin cuts out action and repetive conversations so that there is more time for real bonding moments between characters and plenty of scenes that let you get to know them like the Alexis/Diane/Coleman/Mac scenes where there was lots of humor and fun and naturally occurring conversations about their thoughts on relationships, etc. An example of what I mean about cutting out action is when Lucky knocked Dante out at the end of one episode and the next scene with Dante is him talking to Liz saying yes his head is fine, etc. There was no need to have a big dramatic scene about Liz getting him help when they could just refer to it the next day and keep moving right along with the real story. To me, that's the right way to keep the show fast paced and give viewers a reason to tune in everyday ..... oh and it helps a lot if you are showing flashbacks of the same recent scene over and over and over again (::cough:: scarf ::cough:. Fingers crossed that the new writers for Days will be as good (even better) as the new writer at GH.

[karebr13]

@kazz

I truly agree with you with everything you have said about Garin Wolf's writing style and am truly enjoying too his faster pace of moving stuff around but still giving us the core scenes that are needed to move the character driven storylines around from point A to point B without turning them into the kind of plot driven storylines that we were fed on Days for so long by that hack of a writer Dena Highley.

I also love the use of flashbacks too by Wolf especially the other day when flashbacks of Lucky and Liz's past together were shown to introduce new viewers to the history of Lucky and Liz since they will soon be a couple again.

Since we have all decided that it is okay to post spoilers in this thread I figured that I would share some good news with everyone on what is going on with Siobhan that I found out on the daytime royalty website since we all seem to detest the character so much and want to see her killed off the show. I am just going to paraphase what I read and I don't have the link to the information right now but it is from the daytime royalty website. The actress who plays Siobhan has been let go from the show and will be exiting the show in a very dramatic way next week.

[Sparkster]

^^That's the spoiler I was thinking of karebr! I think Anthony or one of his goons is going to do her in. I'm just wondering if Liz will get blamed for it. Oh well, good riddance Siobhan!! ;D

And Sonny's supposed to have yet another come to Jesus moment this week. What a crock.

I guess Michael is going to side with Sonny over this Jax thing and Carly is going to be super pissed. Hey Carly, maybe if you didn't constantly glorify and make excuses for Sonny and his behavior for all your kids' lives they wouldn't want to be like him. Apparently Michael is not giving up on trying to be like his father which is also going to lead to more problems for him and Abby, since she is going to "get closer to Johnny" so the spoilers say. So basically she's going to trade in one mobster's son for another? Ok.

Jason is supposed to have surgery this week too and is going to have some coma dreams. I think that's going to lead into next week as well since the surgery happens Friday, I believe.

So Skye is helping out Jax but is plotting with Anthony. What is wrong with this picture? LOL.

[karebr13]

Thanks Sparkster for all the great spoilers.

I think that Siobhan may end up being drugged and dieing from that and it will be tied into the drug investigation. I do think that Liz is going to end up being blamed for Siobhan's death and that Lucky and maybe even Matt are going to be the only ones who will believe that she wasn't responsible for Siobhan's death and Lucky is going to try to help Liz prove her innocence with Matt's help. This will help bring Liz and Lucky back together and help them get past their trust issues with each other. Matt may end up even helping Liz and Lucky get back together.

I hate that Sonny is going to try to be redeemed again and I heard that this time it is going to be Kate that helps him out. I could have sworn that we just had one of those kind of moments not too long ago when he almost caused Kristina to be blown up and wanted to help her get over her Kiefer abuse stuff but I could be wrong.

I actually think that this stuff with Michael taking Sonny's side may be interesting and end up being a real wakeup call to Michael where he finally realizes that the life Sonny lives is not as glamorous as it seems. As much as I don't want to see Michael be involved in Sonny's business because of how dangerous it is it may not be a bad thing for him to get a taste of just how messed up Sonny is right now. Something bad is probably going to end up happening to Abby and Michael will realize once and for all that he doesn't want to be like Sonny and will end up moving more toward being a Quartermaine.

I don't mind Skye helping Jax out since they were once married and they are still close friends and she probably won't realize it until it is too late that Anthony might be behind what is happening to Jax. It will be real interesting to see what happens if Anthony is behind all these things that are happening in Port Charles. It may even end up having Anthony being killed and leading to a whole who killed Anthony mystery for November sweeps.

I'm curious though with what is going to happen with Jason now that he will be having these dreams.